Bob Sacamano

We'd have to out spend on him though compared to other teams. If it's close between us, Cards and potential other teams coming off good years, we won't even be considered.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:41 AM) If we had not decided to go for it this year and hadn't signed Robertson, LaRoche, and Melky, would we have been big players in this FA market? I think they'd probably go after Heyward since they were interested in him before he was traded to Cardinals and have shown willingness to spend (Tanaka effort).

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:39 AM) Also considering he has trouble staying healthy and is 35, this was likely way more than anyone else offered, both in AAV and number of years. Yep. And it's always hard to count Oakland out. They've been competitive in the past with less than appealing rosters.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:29 AM) You answered your own question, for 99% of players money >>>>>> chance to win, plus he already has a ring. You'd probably do the same. Exactly what I said. He's what in his mid 30s, already has 2 world series rings. It's just about security for his family now (granted he's already made millions but still).

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 05:00 AM) Unless it's too good to pass on, I'd rather keep my closer and have a legit closer to win games I'd rather free up the 3/36 and get a couple good prospects and then sign another reliever or two and try Jones out in the 9th.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:21 AM) Right handed starters on FA market that would interest me: Kenta Maeda Henderson Alvarez Trevor Cahill Doug Fister Edwin Jackson Mat Latos Tim Lincecum Brandon Morrow A lot of those guys I'd only take on minor league deals.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:15 AM) I'd love it if they'd throw Danks in the bullpen as the long man, but they won't do that. He was a solid back of the rotation starter though so I don't really mind if he's in the rotation. Maybe if he's doing good in June/July, we could deal him to a team that needs a starter.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:10 AM) I don't think that a second. Sox have 4 lefties with one righty. They are basically trying to get what they were supposed to have this year is a righty in the number 2 spot that shark was to fill which didn't happen So you think they add a righty, keep Johnson, trade Q for a haul? Don't see them eating any money to move Danks so he should be locked into a spot.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:05 AM) Why would he go to the A's for anything else other than the money? They're going to be terrible. Like you said: money. Dude already has a ring from last season (I think he has 2 actually from time with Phils).

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 10:03 AM) Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 5m5 minutes ago Ryan Madson has agreed to a 3-yr, $22M deal with #Athletics pending physical, source says. Royals lose key piece in the bullpen. Looks like Oakland will have to shift some money cough cough Brett Lawrie cough cough

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:57 AM) Nashville? Winter Meetings are in Nashville

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:48 AM) @MLBBruceLevine: White Sox right handed starter- Third baseman -middle infield help will be Nashville targets Really seems like they don't want to go with Erik Johnson.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 09:07 AM) Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 7m7 minutes ago #Nationals had been reluctant to give O’Day 4th yr -set definitive price point. #Orioles get him on 4-yr, $31M deal, as @JonHeymanCBS said. That's quite a bit for a set up guy. Reliever market about to pick up now. What did Miller get again 4/36? Not too much less than that per year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 08:09 AM) Yep, and I bet it costs more than we think. Wouldn't be a shock to see a Lawrie for Erik Johnson swaps as A's looking for starting pitching. I'd take that swap.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 6, 2015 -> 06:12 AM) @Buster_ESPN: Other teams say Oakland is devoted to the idea of trading Brett Lawrie. That should hurt his trade value right? Only way we would give up something significant is if we're not the the only team in on him.

QUOTE (BigFinn @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 09:05 PM) There are six competitive balance picks at the tail end of the first round and six more at the tail end of the second round. Here's an article explaining it. And here's another that shows where we are penciled in (10, 33, and 62 minus the draft picks other teams lose because of signing free agents). The #10 pick is set in concrete. The #33 pick could be in the high 20s.; the #62 pick could end up in the 50s — which would be cool. Additionally, we could trade for a competitive balance pick - say John Danks and Adam LaRoche to San Diego for James Shield and their competitive balance pick. Only the competitive balance picks can be traded. So competitive balance pick is after the compensation picks?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 04:00 PM) Good luck Giants.......................19th pick is a nice get for the Sox. Sigh...we did not get the 19th pick. That's no longer how that works and hasn't in about 3 years. Blows my mind people still don't understand this.

I have a feeling he's going to do pretty well there. There's what 3 pitchers ballparks in that division? He should be fine.

There was a tweet from earlier that said we have tenth pick in the second round. Don't know if anyone noticed or corrected but that's incorrect. We should have 9th pick in second round due to Tigers surrendering 2nd round pick.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 12:39 PM) So, since Shark officially signed now. Are we up to #30? I'm updating my signature with every signing.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 4, 2015 -> 08:25 PM) I like having the MLB discussions in PHT. I spend a good amount on Soxtalk, and I could count on one hand the number of times I've looked at the Diamond Club or whatever it is called. I would enjoy to discuss those topics, but obviously come to Soxtalk first and foremost to read/chat about the Sox. But I don't mind seeing the other news, even thought it probably isn't something I haven't already heard. I looked at MLBTR probably 10x a day. But I just have never really cared to go to a separate part of the site to look for general MLB discussion. I think its great to have it all in grouping during the offseason. In other news, BRING BACK THE CATCHALLS! The Offseason Plans thread was great. Catch alls are fun, and I feel not having them does the exact opposite of what you think you're accomplishing. You're always going to have people who don't like things one way or another, and as the owner of the site do whatever you please, but I will continue to voice my opinion on the matter when it is brought up. BRING BACK THE CATCH ALLS! I don't mind catch alls, but when every thread becomes one it's really annoying.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 10:46 AM) Losing out on their #2 guy and seeing him in the same division might be the kind of thing that makes the Dodgers desperate enough to open up the vault for one of our guys? Yeah they could beef up their rotation signing Cueto and then dipping into the farm to get Q.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 08:57 AM) It's pretty awesome to see a small market team go big after big talent to compliment the great core they already have. Wish more "small market" teams saw the value in it. Yeah I like seeing the money go around and different teams spending. Wonder who the first player we spend like that will be on.

I bet this deal happens this week. I am not willing to bet my house though. Don't know who would go to Oakland.

What round are the competitive balance picks (still can't figure out whey we don't get one)? After 3rd round?