Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (mataipaepae @ Apr 24, 2017 -> 01:26 PM) Or see how Willie Garcia develops in center? What are the reports on him? Hopefully he comes back up after the 10 days pass (which I guess would be this week).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2017 -> 12:15 PM) Attitude problems. God how bad must the Sox suck when guys with a .302 OPS are desired. He sucks. Even his defense has slipped. No one is going to give you anything for him. At this point, May should probably be in the minors and if you start Leury, you need someone capable of playing CF on the bench (unless you want to bank on Leury never needing to sit and having Sanchez/Saladino as an emergency guy). That's why I wouldn't mind him honestly.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 24, 2017 -> 11:58 AM) Owed about 3 million. Sox would have to clear a 40 man spot. I'd take him over May for sure. Martin is actually a MLB player for starters. I mean, at some point they could probably transfer Rodon to the 60-day dl which would clear a 40-man spot.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/04/nati...son-colome.html Here's some more as well. Mentions they view Glover as closer of the future but may not be ready to hand him in the keys yet.

Wouldn't be a bad time for your second career hit...

QUOTE (Scoots @ Apr 23, 2017 -> 01:13 PM) I never understood why people wore cubs uniforms to Sox games. Why? Or vice versa?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 23, 2017 -> 06:49 AM) .205/.265/.330 The White Sox team splits. A .595 team OPS. 32k there last night to try to get a cheap hoodie. But if this keeps up, the Hawk alarm clock, Buehrle day, the Cubs games, and Sale's return are all that is left for White Sox fan interest as far as attending goes. Trades making the team at least initially even worse will also keep many interested. This is going to be a really bad summer for baseball. Last night was the first time in my life when it wasn't pouring or freezing, I had tickets and really didn't want to go to the game. There really was no chance it was going to at least be entertaining. I predicted 8-1 to my wife. Pretty close. Today could be better, at least I want to go. Yet some people believe(d) this is a 75-win team.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 22, 2017 -> 09:44 PM) Was there much complaining going on in the stands? Any laughter at the bad team on the field this year? Any mention of the alleged "rebuild" from the fans? Tell us bout the crowd's demeanor please. Well after the first 3 innings when I realized I wasn't that interested in the game, I went to the bar in RF and apparently, a lot of other people were uninterested as well.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 22, 2017 -> 09:31 PM) 30,000? Tip of the cap to Sox fans. They won't be back. Think it was more for the hoody giveaway haha I was there. Lines before the game were insane really early.

Don't worry guys, we will still win 75 games! /green

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Apr 22, 2017 -> 10:16 AM) Going to be a while looking at that Birmingham Barren offense Moncada, Delmonico, and Willy say hi.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Apr 22, 2017 -> 06:39 AM) I have a feeling we are about to see a 5 or 6 game losing steak...hope I'm wrong but it just has that feel to it. I mean, I don't mind. Beer run!

QUOTE (Wanne @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 08:08 PM) Stoney...people projected Kipnis at 2b...not "the Indians thought they were getting a CF..." c'mon... He was an outfielder turned second baseman.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 03:25 PM) Not sure where the rules fall on that or not, but I do know that any deal with a million dollars or more in cash requires approval from MLB. Yeah I get that. I was trying to figure out what he was saying.

QUOTE (credezcrew24 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) I understand that. I'm saying there must be a rule to stop a team like the White Sox from giving a team 300k in cash for a bonus slot worth 1 million they wouldn't otherwise use. So you're saying the Sox would trade cash considerations for a team's bonus slot?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 01:32 PM) Teams that are not able to spend over $300k on players have to have some room left. Yeah I believe Cubs traded allotment in the off-season if I'm not mistaken. Makes no sense for them to not deal it away since they can't spend.

Worst pitcher to ever throw a perfect game in history?

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) Some have stated Robert would be a potential 1-1 pick in this year's draft. Also, it has been stated that he is the top international prospect currently available and a potential top 25 prospect in MLB upon signing. So what is that worth on the open market? A few points of reference: - The last two 1-1 picks have signed for an average of $6.3MM (understood that this number is heavily skewed because of the cap rules) - The top international prospect in 2016 and #29 ranked per MLB pipeline Kevin Maitan signed for $4.25MM - The top international prospect in 2015 and #14 ranked in Rays org per MLB pipeline Lucius Fox signed for $6MM Based on some of the reference points above, I don't see it taking more than a $13MM signing bonus to land Robert. But are the White Sox willing to pony up $25MM (including tax) to sign him? When Moncada became available late in the signing period, he got $31.5 mill from the Red Sox (who I believe were already over). That should probably factor into your estimate and skew the number up more a bit.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 11:15 AM) If they have 1 million left, is there the 100% tax of all money after the 1 million? I can't find a good resource on the current system. Most of them have an analysis of the new system. Yes all of the money past the $1 million would be taxed.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 11:08 AM) We actually signed 20 players, most for basically nothing. Southsidesox says we have $1 million left. So, if we offer 10 million (nice round numbers) we pay effectively $19mill. Negligible, I think the total spend for FA classes is more important. When you are already paying $10 mill in tax another $30 mill can feel worse. I'm assuming if a player signs for under $300k, it doesn't count towards the allotment. The math I did on the info I provided up top has us at the $1 million remaining.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 10:46 AM) Back on topic......How much could the Sox offer without going into the penalty? Without knowing the exact numbers, I'm guessing only a couple mill. Edit: just checked. We were allotted $2,973,500 for this period so even less than I guessed haha Source: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/04/mlb-...onus-pools.html Edit 2: here is how much we have spent already: Josue Guerrero, of, Dominican Republic (No. 33 prospect), $1.1 million. Luis Mieses, of, Dominican Republic (No. 36 prospect), $428,000. Anderson Comas, of, Dominican Republic (No. 37 prospect), $450,000. These 3 didn't have amounts, so I'm guessing under $300k. Lenyn Sosa, ss, Venezuela Jenderson Caraballo, rhp, Venezuela Anthony Coronado, of, Venezuela

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) To be fair, I'd rather only make the playoffs once and win the World Series in said season than be like the Nationals or Dodgers. The one playoff appearance he is referring to is 08.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 09:41 AM) There are some things that make me more optimistic: - I do think JR is more cautious on Intl talents due to youth. That Robert is 19 years old makes him more likely to spend - Yes, sox have never signed someone over 68 million, but, Robert will not cost over 68 million - The CBA has already changed, so he has cost certainty moving forward in both the MLBAM draft and the INTL FA signings. As with signing Rodon over, I think it makes it more likely he plays outside his normal operating lines BUT, the white sox don't operate in a vacuum. Some other team just may want him more. I don't know that I'd pay Moncada money for robert, I probably would not. But then I'd hope we trade for a ful INTL slot to go after Otani. Including the 100% tax it could be close (not that I think it will go that high).

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 07:52 AM) I don't recall the timing, but signing a 27 year old Jose Abreu doesn't seem to be anything like pursuing a 19/20 year old Robert. The former seems like KW's treasured policy of pursuing veterans. Any pursuit of Robert would seem to go contrary to Reinsdorf's reluctance to spend on "just prospects." Moreover, I can't recall an example where this org beat out other MLB teams to sign a youngster where other teams were interested and involved in pursuing a youngster. Belle, Borchard, and Abreu were veteran players, unlike Robert. Borchard was a draftee. Viciedo did not gin up as much interest & competition for his services as Robert. I see no precedence in recent years from this org. On balance, signing Robert seems incredibly unlikely to me. I do 100% agree with this. The first part of my post was more about teams not being to really sign Abreu due to the playoffs going on. I know the Red Sox were interested and had Napoli at first on an expiring contract. Would seem difficult to sign Abreu at that point in time.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 20, 2017 -> 10:10 PM) The precedents of outspending markets exist for Albert Belle, Joe Borchard, Viciedo and Abreu (although every MLB team wasn't looking 1B that off-season, including most of the big spenders). Dunn and Robertson would be other examples for DH's and relievers. It does make sense with our long history with Cuban players, not to mention the presence of Abreu, Moncada and even Rodon's family background. That said, like MOST of the time we've been excited about acquiring a player or a potential trade, will only believe it when I see it. I recall Abreu signing during the playoffs with the Red Sox as an interested team, who were in the post-season. Would be tough to make a signing at that time.