Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Tony @ Nov 30, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) Willson Contreras was the starter. David Ross was a pinch hitter. Yeah as his personal pitcher entered the game. He only caught once every 5th day unless it was necessary.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2017 -> 08:31 AM) Yet game 7 of the WS, who was behind the plate? BTW, another thing the Cubs got lucky with, Contreras was available in the rule 5 and nobody took him. He had to be better than Nieto. I'm sure there have been a lot of teams that have gotten lucky with this. What year was this exactly? Was he only like, 20 years old at the time? Young enough to not warrant a 40-man roster spot all season?

QUOTE (GermanSock @ Nov 30, 2017 -> 08:11 AM) maybe if the sox eat 10-15M that could improve the package. the value of sluggers is a Little down due to the HR surge but I think last year was somewhat an aberation. I think the value will remain a Little down but EE and bautista who are often named as examples also were older sluggers. Hosmer will probably still get 150M for example and he isn't really a slugger. there still will be a Need for sluggers albeit the time when sluggers were given 200+M contracts might be over. Also a Team might prefer 2 years of abreu vs having to commit for 7 years to hosmer or 4 years to Santana. I think there is a market for abreu but it is limited of course. I actually think Santana on a 4-year deal would be fine. One of the guy's best traits is his walk rate, something that can hold up with age. There was an article I read somewhere recently that despite Hosmer likely being better during the duration of his next contract than Santana's contract, that Santana will likely be better than Hosmer over the next 3-4 years. Any team considering Hosmer should sign Santana instead.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) The Cubs A. got very lucky. If Houston drafts Bryant, they are over a century without a title. Theo was second to SD signing Sheilds. He was second to Detroit for Sanchez. Arrieta trade was lucky. Rizzo trade was curious. Hendricks as a throw in worked. B. Spent a heck of a lot of money. The White Sox can't have a payroll anywhere near them. Unlike these other teams, the White Sox won't be able to spend $200 million a year "filling holes". Some luck is going to be needed, and the development team is going to have to do something it has struggled to do for years. Hopefully, it works, but eventually, they are going to have to sign expensive free agents, who may or may not work out. Oh I know that. They will sign guys eventually. Not all of our prospects will work out as much as we hope. I think that's a big thing some fail to realize. You can't just rely on your own system which is why it doesn't really work for teams like Pirates and the Rays who can never sign anyone and seem to constantly rebuild. I was just correcting a few things with the players you listed.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 30, 2017 -> 07:56 AM) Yea - we're not getting what abreu needs to be worth for us to trade him IMO Yeah. How many teams need a 1B exactly? Teams could sign Santana, Hosmer, and even Morrison and Bruce just for money. And that doesn't even count the teams that could potentially convert corner outfielders to 1B and sign another outfielder. I've thought all season that it's more likely Abreu signs an extension for about 4-5 years buying out his last 2 arbitration years than the Sox getting a haul for him.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2017 -> 07:49 AM) When they won the WS or pennant as your post referred. Fowler FA Heyward FA Zobrist FA Ross FA Pitchers FA. Yes. Half. Fowler: traded for from Houston so he's removed from this list. Heyward: was awful besides the defense. Any defensive-first 4th OF could have put up close to his numbers for a fraction of a fraction of the price. Zobrist: was actually good Ross: third catcher Pitchers: Lester and Lackey

A "good morning" to all.

X-Men approved.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) If they trade JBJ (and Groome) for Abreu, the corresponding move they make is likely to go buy JD Martinez and move Benintendi to CF. Dor a team that didn't want to go over the luxury tax threshold a year ago, they're suddenly going to add about $45 mill next year to two players?

So be it

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 03:04 PM) I guess. Infinity war is a pretty iconic storyline though I'm not disagreeing. I can't wait to see this.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 02:15 PM) Well, they have been building towards Thanos since the first Thor movie, so they kind of did have to pick Thanos eventually. The MCU is based around the Infinity stones and Infinity War, Thanos is the only bad guy to pick for it. QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 02:59 PM) Yeah. Curious who else could be the main villain for Infinity War? They've been hinting at him forever and was built up. I think he's just saying they could have built towards a different story this whole time and not the Infinity War story. Although, there are rumors that the Captain Marvel movie is going to set up a "Secret Invasion" story-line with the Skrull (possibly for Avengers 4 or beyond).

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) I'd rather use our last great veteran trade piece to improve on our next core of players, not a guy who is going to be an impending FA next time we're good. While I agree with this, you could potentially have an even better trade chip if Bradley's season is anywhere between his 2016 and 2017 season since he plays a premium position.

Hopefully it's not as light-hearted as the Thor and the Guardians movies. Something this epic should have a more serious tone.

I love BttF!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 01:08 PM) Why. I fully expect Jose to be traded after reading Dick Allen's comments from the Hahn speech. Jose is gone as is Avi. Sox obviously don't care. Hahn is out to get that payroll down to the lowest imaginable then allegedly use that money when it's time. Modern baseball. The only time in history teams are glad to get rid of players who are beloved and has THIS KIND of proven production. It used to be you'd keep such stars til they decided to retire. Bye Jose and thanks for these numbers. 2014: .317, 36 HR, 107 RBI, .383 OBP, .581 SLG 2015: .290, 30 HR, 101 RBI, .347 OBP, .502 SLG 2016: .293. 25 HR, 100 RBI, .353 OBP, .468 SLG 2017: .304, 33 HR, 102 RBI, .354 OBP, .552 SLG. Should be interesting to see what positions they target in this deal and Avi deal. Seems to me they already have a lot of outfield candidates especially with Robert and Eloy occupying two slots for many years in theory. My guess is they go for catcher, shortstop (upgrade from Tim is possible), and pile up more pitching. Look for catchers, shortstops and pitchers in teams organizations and that's who Abreu and Avi will be dealt for. You could say 3B as well but if that's the case why did they draft Burger? I guess they could stockpile another there and eventually release or trade my man, Davidson. Greg, go read the comments on MLBTR and argue with them. The comments will infuriate you. I've lost my desire to.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 12:58 PM) I wouldn't be surprised if it is four teams. There's not a big market for first baseman again this year. If the Sox have four legit interested teams, that's a good thing. I wouldn't be either. I just thought throwing out the "among the 4 teams interested" was odd as there was no mention of 4 teams talking to the Sox haha

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) Have to imagine the Rockies and Cardinals are among the four teams interested. Really like what they have to offer in a trade. We don't know that there are only 4 teams.

If you guys want a great laugh, go look at the comments on MLBTR about this. Here: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/red-...comment-1134647

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 12:04 PM) They would be the ideal trade partner.. Give me Dahl please Brendan Rodgers! Along with Pint. Also, we can draft Seth Beer and play him at 1B. Burger, Pint, Beer, Fry.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 11:28 AM) I think you guys are hinting at an important point here so I'm going to say it explicitly - the Red Sox clubhouse was supposedly a mess last year. Price was apparently the closest thing they had to a clubhouse leader last year and he became that by attacking the media. The Red Sox's young guys like Betts weren't able to step into those roles. So, "Guy who can be a strong clubhouse influence alongside a fairly young team" actually fits the Red Sox's needs quite well. Put him in alongside Alex Cora and you've built a different team right from the start. Pedroia wasn't much of a leader last year during that whole Machado incident but he's always seemed like one. I think his teammates respect him.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 11:39 AM) Any idea who the "others" could be from Heyman's tweet? I would guess Cardinals for sure since they are moving Carpenter off first and are looking for a middle of the order bat. And I'll guess Rockies too.

I don't see a deal happening here. I think Rockies and Cardinals would have better pieces to move.

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) He better have really wanted him... I've yet to find someone who was super happy with that deal though (like the others) If Rutherford came over and hit immediately, you would have no problem finding someone.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 29, 2017 -> 11:13 AM) JBJ is a guy controlled for an extra season who also could be extended, and since he is younger, maybe a better candidate for that. Premium GG quality defender up the middle. If you could get a good prospect or 2 with him, I have liked Abreu as much as anyone, but I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. Jose could come back in 2 years and DH. Heck, they could even flip Bradley if he has a year similar to 2016.