Bob Sacamano

This is where you make your pitch. Guaranteed season long abs no matter if he is struggling (could a contender offer that specifically?).

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 24, 2017 -> 08:32 AM) I just don’t see the point of trading Abreu unless you get a legit blue-chipper for him. While you can certainly can never have enough prospect depth, at some point that depth comes with diminishing returns. We’re already starting to have 40 man roster issues, so adding more prospects will likely require us to let go of some other (lesser) talent down the road. Furthermore, you simply run out of opportunities to give these guys all looks. By the end of this coming season we could have a rotation of Rodon, Giolito, Lopez, Kopech, & Hansen plus guys like Adams, Stephens, & Guerrero (if around) in AAA and other key prospects like Dunning, Cease, etc. at other levels. Obviously we lack depth at other positions, but again, unless we’re adding a blue chipper I don’t see the point of selling Abreu, especially not when we’ll have plenty of money to plug any gaps with serviceable players. Avi is a different story because either you have to be confident in extending him for big money or sell him off in the next two years. Given our minor league OF dept (which is quite extensive) and Avi’s checkered past, I think selling is the right call. And while I would definitely not just give him away, I don’t need a blue chipper to move him like I would with Abreu. Agreed on Avi. Seems like we have a lot of arms (and even a few bats) knocking on the door to the point where if a team offered a few recent top 18/19 year old draft picks/international signings, I'd probably trade him. Get some guys 3-4 years away for the next wave.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 23, 2017 -> 11:50 PM) I just saw this article about a possible Jose Abreu trade. It seems like for as little value he had last year, he has a ton this year. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/look...breu-trade.html Some of those teams make zero sense. I would see Rockies, Cardinals and Red Sox as most likely.

Very clever, Brian.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 10:36 AM) Well, if you believe Otani's actions and the reports on what he's said, the money isn't that big of a factor and he wants to go to a team that isn't traditionally considered to be a powerhouse. There are quite a few elements of the whole thing that give me hope that the White Sox have a nonzero chance in this race. I just hope the org pursues it. I agree with everything except the bolded. For example, if it comes down to the Sox and Yankees and both are offering him significant DH at bats but Yankees are offering ~$3 million more, I would bet on him taking the Yankees offer.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 08:12 AM) Of those four, really only the Mariners have a regular DH that would compete for ABs. Believe me, I love to follow the NPB and I want Otani on the White Sox BADLY (I subscribe to the PL streaming service and watched all of Otani's starts this year), but this one is looking to be very, very unlikely for us. Really, no AL team has less to offer him on paper than we do. We're not currently a contender, have the least amount of money to give, exist in an underperforming media market (given the Cubs and compared to LA/NYC), and we have a guy who will likely need to compete for DH at bats going forward (Abreu). On top of that, the Sox are one of the few teams who didn't bother to send anyone to go see him pitch this year, and there have been no indications that they've contacted his agent. To me, it appears that the Sox consciously chose to put their eggs in the Luis Robert basket instead of joining the scrum for Otani, knowing that they had a much better chance of landing Robert given their ability to spend big and offer a Cuban-friendly clubhouse. Yankees don't necessarily have a "regular" DH but once you factor in Hicks as the regular CF (pretty much the only guy who can play it regularly on that team) and Judge as the regular RF, that leaves LF and DH between Gardner, Ellsbury and C. Frazier. Of course there are variables like trading Gardner, salary dumping Ellsbury on someone, dealing Castro/Headley (another guy who could factor into DH spot once of Torres is up).

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 02:35 AM) - https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/brav...violations.html That's gonna be quite the Christmas present for one group of devoted fans! Yep. I still think if the Sox really wanted him, they could make a good offer to get him. Would seem to come down to going for a couple million dollars or regular at bats. Idk how many at bats teams like the Yankees, Rangers, Twins and Mariners can give him if he really wants to hit.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 10:09 PM) Hiding in office. I will be doing the same for the time I am there.

QUOTE (Tony @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 11:51 AM) I still think the comes in too short for you to spend your money on, but that’s just me. I'll probably end up waiting on it.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 02:34 AM) I don't think I even began to climb that fence, as I would be paying $200, or whatever the Switch costs, just to play the new Mario games. Nintendo systems always interest me, but the games rarely do. Agreed. Never was into Zelda so it would be a waste for me.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Nov 22, 2017 -> 02:14 AM) It's a match, on paper. We don't know how many years or how much money he's looking for and then there's opt-outs to take into consideration. I'd like to get a better idea of what he's looking before I say I want him. I would definitely talk to his agent after the 2018 WS finishes up to get an idea of what he's looking for. Well right after the season, his demands will be probably be higher than he will get. Anyone know who his agent is?

Get out at noon tomorrow!

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 05:57 PM) Confused to why people think Sox are players here? I mean maybe they get one of the lower end guys for 300K if they even have that much money left but I don't think that would call for anymore excitement than any amateur international signing. If the Sox don't have the lowest spending power internationally, they're probably second or third. I agree 100%. They likely took most money the first time. I would expect the same here.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 04:07 PM) Yeah we are capped with 300k signings until July 1, 2019. That is the downside of blowing the pool for Robert. No Ohtani, no more Cubans, and no more 16 year old signings of any size all for two years. Well, with it now capped, the chances of being able to get some interesting prospects at $300k is better than it was under the old rules. They basically had to go all out for Robert last period since signing Ohtani really wouldn't be guaranteed even if we had the most to spend.

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 04:02 PM) well this makes me sad... I didn't know/forgot it was a two year penalty The 17/18 period is our first year.

QUOTE (cjgalloway @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) F*** yes.. Let's go balls to the wall! Well we can't really since we are penalized for going over in the 16/17 period for Robert.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 03:27 PM) If not done this offseason I think the chance he goes full blown free agent is a better reality. Yeah I think so too.

Coppolella...you're f***in out!

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 03:11 PM) Dannggggg Coppy is banned for life from MLB Tomahawk chopped his ass.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) Joel Sherman‏Verified account @Joelsherman1 12m12 minutes ago Agreement on new MLB-NPB posting system down to few items, but not done and those involved still saying if not finalized today it won’t get done this offseason #Ohtani BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) This is amazing considering Moncada, Giolito, & Lopez are no longer eligible. We lost the #1 prospect in baseball plus two more top 50 guys and we’re still firmly at #1 and have the 4th overall pick in next year’s draft. Great spot to be. Would be amazing if add Maitan (who some wanted as a center-piece in a Q deal) or any of these kids that just got removed today.

Question is, which team gets busted next? I doubt them and the Red Sox are the only ones cheating in one way or another when it comes to these signings/agreements.

QUOTE (GenericUserName @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:13 PM) We might not be. I don't know how to embed a tweet, but Badler said this a little while ago: With the new international system in place, the precedent set with the Red Sox doesn't really matter. Makes sense since the rules have changed since then.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:33 PM) Machado can also play SS though, so I could see a team signing him and moving him over. Heck, he might even play SS in 2018.

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 21, 2017 -> 01:11 PM) Short answer, we don't know. Safe bet: they will be put in the 2017 pool which we can only spend 300k. Does that mean we have no chance? Hard to know, this will be a strange market. A runner up to Otani will have probably increased their available space and will have most money to offer. But maybe we are able to sign some of the non Maitans, maybe Maitan has some different criteria he's looking for. We'll have no idea. I'd say we have a much better shot at Maitan than Otani! I think opposite actually (not that I believe either is likely).