Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 12:32 PM) Not really. As I said, it doesn't really count as doing them a favour when they could just do it to another team and probably get something back for it rather than give something away. Agreed. I would think the Yankees would rather just trade either/or for something rather than making them have to give up more in a deal with the Sox.

God f***ing dammit.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) Seems Bruce confirmed report, but his reporting is equally suspect IMO lol he literally just said that Bob Nightengale reported it in his tweet. His reporting is beyond suspect.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) Rosenthal take a vaca or what? I think so. Said he was going off the grid for a bit.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) Eh. If they were one year deals, I'd agree. BOth are signed through 2018. Would add $25M to the payroll both this year and next. That is quite a lot to swallow, and would definitely affect the Sox chances of competing in 2018 if a bunch of stuff went right this season with prospect development. I would definitely take one.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) Jesus Christ, the posturing never stops I know. I'm so glad I'm not a GM. It would be so stressful.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 11:25 AM) The #Yankees and #Pirates currently most aggressive teams in talks with #Whitesox about Quintana, and, yes, even discussed potential 3-way https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/813796600787206149 I love that we got a tweet about the Yankees not even discussing a deal.

I would say I'm ready to quit following this topic until something happens but I'm just way too bored at work. I'm still somewhat new and no one has time to train me lol

Good job, Bruce. You told us everything we already knew.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 10:11 AM) Here goes another day of getting teased early and leaving us hanging until tomorrow lol Tell me about it. I'd rather have these tweets happen around 4pm towards the end of the work day lol

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) It scares the s*** out of me even if I know it shouldn't This is how I feel. Would hate for him to still be here only for him to suffer a terrible injury during the WBC or in the first months of the season.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) What is the insurance policy if Q goes to the WBC or into the regular season with the Sox and gets hurt or suffers a labrum/Johan Santana injury? I keep forgetting he is pitching in the WBC.

Random, but who was the prospect the Yankees took for the Robertson loss in the 15 draft?

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:29 AM) That is my impression, i.e.dodgers luxury tax salary higher than roster salary as the portion they are paying on players not on their team goes on their books The salary that hits the luxury tax is by an AAV basis, correct? So even though Robertson is due to make $12 mill, his hit on the luxury tax threshold would be 11.5 since he signed a 4 year, $46 million deal?

Would you guys expect it to be an OF prospect (one of Frazier and Rutherford), an IF prospect (one of Mateo and Torres), Sheffield and then another piece or two?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:18 AM) If you get money back does that mean that what you get back does not count against the luxury limit? The problem the Yankees have with Robertson is if they go over the threshold, his salary in essence is quite a bit more than they are paying him. Maybe they will look to dump Headley or continue to try to move Gardner?

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:09 AM) 3 guys for q and drob thats not enough. That's 4 guys. The "+" is an additional piece.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 09:03 AM) Why would the Yankees want Robertson? They just paid Chapman. I don't buy the report. This is pressure on the other teams. To go with a 3-headed monster at the end of the game like they entered last season with. It's not really that hard to figure out.

Why do people assume it's a leak? If these talks are happening, it's not like they wouldn't go to other teams and say they are talking about this deal

What do you guys think a deal would be if the Sox eat 6 mill this season and 6.5 next year (half his salary each year)? Quintana and Robertson (plus half his salary) for Frazier, Torres plus 2-3 more (don't really know other names besides Mateo and Rutherford)?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 08:18 AM) Eat some of(hell eat the whole damn thing) and just bring back a serious haul. Agreed. Not like we really need the financial room.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 08:16 AM) The #Yankees have expanded their Jose Quintana talks with #Whitesox that would include closer David Robertson, if Sox eat part of contract https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/813749518969737216 This is exactly what I did not understand about the three-way deal between the Sox, Pirates, and Yankees. If the Yankees were going to give up prospects, why not just deal for Q themselves since pitching is a bigger need for them? They have Gardner, Ellsbury and Judge (or any other young player they want to play) in the outfield and really don't need McCutchen. Edit: also, if Bautista is really willing to sign a one-year deal, Yankees could have interest and move him around between RF, 1B and DH. If the team isn't good but Bautista does good, they can deal him in July (see: the older 2016 rental traded at the deadline Carlos Beltran). Saunders could also be a fit with that short RF. All I'm getting at is they have options.

Sox signed Jorge Rondon to minor league deal. Not very interesting but news.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) I just don't understand why the Sox would trade proven Quintana for an unproven right hander who has walked tons of guys at every level. I just watched his start against StL and was unimpressed. Sits 92-94 from the right side and is definitely wild. CIN touched him up twice. Why is this frickin guy supposed to be our prize. The guy we got Lopez blows this stooge out of the water. At least he has electric stuff and is wild. Glasnow has lame stuff and is wild. So the guys we dealt for Sale ARE proven?

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) I think they are definitely going for just by adding Desmond to an already powerful offense. With too many outfielders and a need for pitching, if they signed Wieters we could go after Rodgers/Dahl/Murphy for Q + (Jennings)? I'd be up for that.