Bob Sacamano

Why do people assume it's a leak? If these talks are happening, it's not like they wouldn't go to other teams and say they are talking about this deal

What do you guys think a deal would be if the Sox eat 6 mill this season and 6.5 next year (half his salary each year)? Quintana and Robertson (plus half his salary) for Frazier, Torres plus 2-3 more (don't really know other names besides Mateo and Rutherford)?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 08:18 AM) Eat some of(hell eat the whole damn thing) and just bring back a serious haul. Agreed. Not like we really need the financial room.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 08:16 AM) The #Yankees have expanded their Jose Quintana talks with #Whitesox that would include closer David Robertson, if Sox eat part of contract https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/813749518969737216 This is exactly what I did not understand about the three-way deal between the Sox, Pirates, and Yankees. If the Yankees were going to give up prospects, why not just deal for Q themselves since pitching is a bigger need for them? They have Gardner, Ellsbury and Judge (or any other young player they want to play) in the outfield and really don't need McCutchen. Edit: also, if Bautista is really willing to sign a one-year deal, Yankees could have interest and move him around between RF, 1B and DH. If the team isn't good but Bautista does good, they can deal him in July (see: the older 2016 rental traded at the deadline Carlos Beltran). Saunders could also be a fit with that short RF. All I'm getting at is they have options.

Sox signed Jorge Rondon to minor league deal. Not very interesting but news.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 09:47 PM) I just don't understand why the Sox would trade proven Quintana for an unproven right hander who has walked tons of guys at every level. I just watched his start against StL and was unimpressed. Sits 92-94 from the right side and is definitely wild. CIN touched him up twice. Why is this frickin guy supposed to be our prize. The guy we got Lopez blows this stooge out of the water. At least he has electric stuff and is wild. Glasnow has lame stuff and is wild. So the guys we dealt for Sale ARE proven?

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) I think they are definitely going for just by adding Desmond to an already powerful offense. With too many outfielders and a need for pitching, if they signed Wieters we could go after Rodgers/Dahl/Murphy for Q + (Jennings)? I'd be up for that.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 08:51 AM) They werent in on EE (I don't think) I doubt they sign Trumbo They were reportedly "monitoring" EE. Trumbo I would imagine will sign for cheaper.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 08:14 AM) My baseball Christmas wish this year is for the Rockies to come outta nowhere and offer the Sox a trade package headlined by Rodgers. Please Santa! If they sign Trumbo (and maybe Wieters) I think it's possible. All-in mode.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 01:08 PM) Everyone go enjoy the holidays! No use pouring over twitter non stop waiting for breaking news! Grab a beer, watch some football and engage in boring conversations with in laws or distant cousins

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) @SoxTalk Quintana likely to be traded some time in career #Rumors #DamnHolidays This will do lol

Man we really need a tweet to get this thread back on track.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 11:46 AM) If the Pirates budget is that tight and they really want Q, then why didn't they didn't they trade for Q before they signed Hudson and Nova? With the outfield depth the Yanks have, why on earth would they want McCutchen when they need pitching? Oh, and Huntington wants Q but doesn't want to part with Meadows or Bell? Can't help but think Huntington is full of s*** so is his interest in Q. None of this adds up to the Pirates being serious about Q. Pirates fans have seemed very skeptical about a deal actually happening. Thats why about a week ago I said I wouldn't be shocked if we didn't deal with Pit despite it actually making sense. Not without dealing McCutchen first. I think it works better as: team A deals multiple prospects for McCutchen and then Pirates deal for Q as opposed to trying to make sense of a 3-way.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 11:37 AM) Yea, for three consectutive pages after being asked to stop. But hey, let's keep crying about it It is annoying to see a recent post in these threads only for it to say poop. Or something completely random with "poop" at the end.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 11:10 AM) Isn't their only interest a hypothesis? Not sure how that could be overblown I seriously don't understand the Yanks interest at all. I think if a deal happens with us and the Pirates, it'll be a 2 team trade or a three-way with someone else.

QUOTE (Moncada @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) I'd take Vlad Jr over most of the guys that have been talked about in this thread If many people are down on Bell for not really having a position then many will be down on Vlad for the same reason.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 09:58 AM) I've been surprised by a lot this winter, but none more than Jose Quintanas contract being an issue. It's the Pirates we're talking about though haha

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 09:34 AM) Jerry Crasnek musing on Twitter about Cutch to Toronto, possible helping their power void. But only musing, not saying anything is really happening at the moment. If I were Toronto, I'd just re-sign Bautista to a one year deal (he's looking for one now) as opposed to giving up pieces for McCutchen.

Rabbit did say the Pirates are going to try to get Q even if they can't make a 3-way work with the Yankees so there's still hope.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) Not sure if this guy is legit, but maybe keep an eye out here on the Pirates side... https://twitter.com/PiratesFaithful He's just tweeting and re-weeting what rabbit and WSD are saying.

Wait, would McCutchen play RF for the Yanks? I seriously don't get their interest unless they also get Robertson or someone too. Maybe they finally trade Gardner?

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 10:10 AM) I just can't see Glasnow, Keller and Cutch being traded for Q They could be getting a piece or two from the Yankees. Don't really know.

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 10:05 AM) Not sure about this, since Pirates would have to get more than just Quintana. That would mean either Rutherford or Andujar going to Pittsburgh, would it not? Yeah it's possible they can get a Yanks prospect.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) Bah, we just did a trade where we sent away a position player and brought back 3 pitchers. That would be your offsetting move. Absolutely though I still really want Glasnow haha

QUOTE (Soxnfins @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 09:58 AM) My philosophy on this is that you cannot trade a TOR guy without acquiring a talented pitching prospect back. ESPECIALLY a lefty. That's why Sale doesn't get done without Kopech, regardless of Moncada. . You don't trade pitching straight for hitting, you trade it for both, even though you sacrifice a higher ceiling positional prospect. Position players are different, you can trade them for high ceiling pitching prospects and a mid tier positional prospect. The Sox know what they are doing. What if we got multiple ones in a deal for a position player (as we did)?