Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 11:36 AM) I don't see Boston wanting to tap into it's farm system anymore after trading for Pomeranz, Sale and Thornburg in the past year See disclaimer. It was just a s***s and gigs scenario.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) I think it's possible Boston could have interest though I am not counting on it. It would be a slick move by Dombrowski to make his team even better while cock-blocking the Yanks from improving their rotation. Win win for Boston. Oh well, it was just a thought. It is haha. Just as a fun thought, what do you believe it would take? Devers, Travis, Groome plus one more piece? Disclaimer: before people decide to pounce and say it isn't going to happen; I know that. You don't have to tell me. I was just throwing it out there because it's a boring Tuesday at work.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) A minor league deal? Or a $1M deal? Who cares? Why not? I'm saying from out standpoint it doesn't make sense. We plug him in against righties and he hits 25 homers. And no one trades for him. That does us no good. We should be getting guys already here at bats to develop or sign guys to potentially flip.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 11:12 AM) He hit 25 home runs in 330 ABs last year. He'll be cheap. He wouldn't be my first option, but I wouldn't hate it either. If no team wanted him with the Phillies offering to pay almost all of his remaining deal last year, no one will want him next year.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 11:00 AM) Yah, I don't know. Wouldn't be surprised either way. I would like to see them sign some guys to 1 year deals though if they don't plan to continue to subtract. I would absolutely take Greg Holland off the market. Granted if it were between us and a contending team, he'd likely go there. Edit: unless of course, we offered a few million more which we can do.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 10:56 AM) I wouldn't mind the Sox taking a flyer on Richie Schaffer who was DFA to make space. If he makes it through the NL, not a terrible waiver claim. Especially if the Sox plan to move more guys. I honestly don't really see anyone else moving to be honest. Maybe Quintana if they get an offer they like but that's about it. Everyone else potentially in July or next off-season.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) I do wonder if Boston would seriously consider a trade for Q. They are set up to win now, stocked farm and Dombrowski is not afraid to deal prospects. Same thing crossed my mind the other day actually. I think they are done looking for starters but I could see them having enough to get Q still if they wanted to gut the rest of their farm. Maybe in July if Sale/Porcello/Price misses a significant amount of time.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 10:40 AM) No way they include Babe Ruth. Ruth(erford)

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 10:27 AM) Where are you seeing this? I think he's just referring to proposed packages on here.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 09:11 AM) Great. I have zero issue being stuck with a bad player making $10 million. We've had several each of the past few years. The difference here would be - if we're stuck with a bad player for $10 million it doesn't cost us a division title shot when we have to put them on the field. We're in a position where we have money available but just started accumulating decent talent. Anything that turns money into future talent is a potentially solid investment. If the Phillies wanted to give us a player to pay Ryan Howard's salary for a year, fine. If the Tigers wanted to give us a player to clear Anibal Sanchez, I'm listening. Agreed. And there's definitely alternative options out there I'd rather sign and try to trade in June/July like Adam Lind.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) Plenty of GM's go about doing their due diligence without it getting reported by the media. Cashman is more serious than many are letting on. But its not just "plenty of GM's." It's the GM of the Yankees. Anything they say or do is reported. You can't go a day on MLBtr without seeing some sort of Yankees update.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) That dude is cooked. He needs to retire. Agreed. He's a 37 year old DH. Teams won't be lining up to give up good or even interesting prospects for him in July. Just don't see the upside in signing him. There's plenty of other guys better/similar to him but younger still out there in free agency.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 08:06 AM) Judge strikes out far too often for my liking. I would be more lenient with a small sample size, but he turns 25 in a few months and is not exactly a "young" prospect anymore. Torres + Frazier ++ is what it would take, and I do not think the Yankees are willing to pay that price I have a feeling it was more due diligence as Morosi reported they've called just about every team for pitching.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) Which again means that if Q is not traded and the Sox plug a couple holes (CF and DH), they actually will have a somewhat respectable roster on opening day I agree. We are from the worst team in baseball. The only bright spot we have is that we may get beat up by most of the AL while the bad NL teams beat each other. But even then it seems like there should be some bad AL teams like the A's, Rays, and Twins. And the Royals may end up trading more of their roster as well.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 03:54 PM) He's not Sale, but he is also under control for four seasons vs. three seasons of Sale (at the same dollar cost) I'm not parting with him to the Yankees for less than Torres + Frazier + at least one more good prospect And it doesn't sound like Hahn wants to deal him for less than what they received for Sale as well.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) If I can't get Torres + Frazier plus at least one more prospect I am not sure there is a Yankees package that would make sense Torres is a very good prospect, but he is not on the level of Moncada. Agreed.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) Consensus seems to be he is on the roster until the deadline unless a team gets antsy in the offseason and offers up a haul It seems like you can say that about a lot of guys as it seems quite a few have no market (Melky, Frazier, D-Rob).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 03:21 PM) Danks was a couple of years further down the road when he got his deal. I don't think he gave up any of his pre-abr years. I think just his last year which isn't really "giving it up" since you're getting paid for what he did. Like the guys who go season by season.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:55 PM) http://www.espn.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id...ion-source-says It wasn't ALL of his arbitration years, but it was an early extension that obviously benefited Danks quite a bit. It's not really the same thing as the Sale, Eaton, Quintana type extensions where the player is signed way in advance of free agency but I get what you're saying.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) JOHN DANKS! Yea I really am not a fan of how Houston does business. Sox have to do what's best for the Sox but to see Jose Quintana playing an instrumental role on a Luhnow team winning a World Series would suck. When did John Danks sign a team friendly extension that bought out all his arbitration years? I don't remember this.

Daniel Hudson signs with Pirates, according to Jeff Passan.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:33 PM) Yankees coming out of nowhere. I was hoping they'd come for him. They're the best match left for the Sox. Start with a Frazier, Torres package. Supposedly they've called most teams regarding pitching according to Morosi so it kinda sounds more like due diligence on their part.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) There are examples for the other side of this, such as Singelton from Houston, and our deal with Sergio Santos Yeah where it doesn't work out but doesn't really hurt the team.

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) He's had zero pressure. It's like the pressure of a back up QB vs a starter. QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) He's not an ace. QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:06 PM) Q gets traded to a GOOD team, and he's their number 1? His numbers are going to be way worse. If you don't understand that concept you are clueless. QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 02:08 PM) Hey genius lol it's the same QB. Wow. You're either trolling, on some really good s***, or very stupid.

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Dec 19, 2016 -> 01:13 PM) If you have Ace results people will always view you as a #2 if you don't have Ace type dominating "stuff". Probably hurts that he was in the shadow of Chris Sale as well.