Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) Mind me asking what the blip last night was? I think it was the Pirates blogger tweeting out that Rick Hahn went back to the Pirates to discuss an offer or something.

It doesn't even make sense that they would want a left handed hitting OF when they've got Smith and Kim at the corners (unless they want one that can share DH at bats). I think they have Rickard platooning with Kim but Smith is also more of a platoon guy so he could really use a platoon partner. They way they operate, they will totally sign one of Crisp, Jackson, Francour, Raburn or Stubbs...and they'll somehow hit 30 homers out of said platoon lol

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) So basically the article is showalter saying they want another LH hitter but then the reporter showing how terrible they were vs LH pitching :shrug: But either way Melky is a switch hitter, does not strike out much (which showalter mentiones) and is a terrible fit in basically every other way. lol after I replied to you I decided to check out the article and was like wtf.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) His lefty stats aren't bad either. .289/.344/.789 Not world beating, but useful. I get that but was curious. He's definitely a good get for someone.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) Ridiculous idea that for money reasons isn't a fit at all...on the other hand: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles...0109-story.html "Orioles manager Buck Showalter still seeking another left-handed bat in outfield" Melky vs LH .322 .352 .496 .847 I'm confused. If it says they are seeking another left-handed bat, why are you showing his stats vs Left handed pitching?

God this thread needs a rumor/tweet whatever.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) Can we stop for a second to acknowledge this: The Yankees acquired Frazier for 2.5 years of a relief pitcher, and Torres for half a season of a relief pitcher. First of all, what an extraordinary strike of good fortune. Second, how strange that, a few months later, both seem off the table for four years of a starting pitcher!! Yes, the Indians/Cubs and Yankees were in different situations, but still. Should be able to give some better perspective on Quintana's trade value and market. Goes to show you how in it the Yankees are. I don't think they are involved as much as others on here seem to think. If I were Yankees, I'd try to sign some stop gap types and look to flip veterans (like Tanaka if healthy and good) at the deadline while allowing the kids time in the MLB to develop more. Then go add 2 SP next off-season (maybe go after Tanaka again since there won't be compensation on him) and keep all the young talent you've horded for the 1.5 years.

QUOTE (Special K @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:52 PM) It couldn't seem more obvious that we need to get positional player talent back. We can't just assume guys like Basabe will succeed or even that Anderson is going to continue to do well (see Beckham's first year). Right now, there are two guys I think we can count on to produce - Collins and Moncada (and even they are not proven). Aside from that, 7 other positions need to be filled. We are pretty set on pitching prospects at this point. Need a position player headliner or don't trade Quintana because we have him for 4 more years. Cubs went all in on position player talent. Got lucky w/ Arrieta, and pretty pretty much bought the rest of their staff... Easier to do than trying to spend on a lineup: 9 (8 in NL) spots vs 5.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:55 PM) And I see no reason for Robert to settle for that when other teams can and will offer him so much more. The ONLY thing that the Sox MIGHT have is the ability to put him in the majors today and start his clock. But even with that, San Diego could offer him the same PLUS more money as they are already over the caps. QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:55 PM) We are barely under. He's not signing for less than $1 million. Exactly. I wasn't suggesting he would take a significantly less deal. Just that it is the only way for us to be involved. Padres make a ton of sense since they already signed a lot of the best amateurs this signing period and are already over.

It only makes sense if we don't go over our cap. Otherwise we should have just gone all out and tried to sign everyone this period.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) Several scouts have indicated he lacks fundamentals there, but he does make highlight reel plays so its just a matter of consistency. He was passable at 3B when the Red Sox put him there, but some believe he would be utilize his speed in CF. It will be very interesting to see what Sox do with him. Well they will obviously give him time at second. How long before they decided he should be used at 3B or in the OF is the real question.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 09:34 AM) If that is the scouting report, I don't know why anyone would trade a #1 or #2 starter signed for 4 years at a bargain for a package headlined by a guy who might be almost as good if everything goes right. Well I think it would be because you are getting 2 additional cheap years of control (might benefit us more than someone on a 4-year deal) and 3-4 additional pieces.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 09:12 AM) Q and Santiago have to be the two randomest no ones to All-Stars in recent memory for a while due to their sustained success (outside of this last year for Hector). Love that we turned Santiago into Eaton and then Eaton into Lopez, Giolito and Dunning. Can't wait to see what we get for Q.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) I have not seen any reports of talks advancing with any particular club. Astros and Pirates seem to be in the mix, with the Yankees lurking. I was just basing it off of that one blogger (who seems to have connections but not 100% certain) that posted about the Sox going back to the Pirates' offer. Remember, you won't always have info from the main guys about a deal being close until it's almost already done really.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 07:41 AM) Yep, we "sold high" on a closer for once (at the time) only to use him for a pitching prospect from blue jays already showing decline. Brutal. Coop will fix him! /green

So if it is true (I take this kind of stuff with a grain of salt), then the Sox have an offer they like and are seeing if the Pirates can match it (or beat it)? Reminds me of Sale and Boston kind of.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 08:21 AM) Am I the only one who really really does not want a package centered around Glasnow? Depends on what the rest of the package looks like.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 08:04 AM) FWIW, the Pirates are looking to extend Jordy Mercer. This is pretty odd given that he's not very good, has two years of control left, and the Pirates have a high-end prospect who should be ready to take over at SS when Mercer's contract ends. Some speculation by rumbunter that such a move would allow them to include Newman in a Quintana trade. With recent reports that the Pirates are now holding onto McCutchen, I'm keeping hopes alive for a Quintana for Meadows, Newman, + deal. God I hope so. How good is Mercer's defense? They must like him enough to play him every day and bat him 8th.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 9, 2017 -> 12:44 AM) If the Sox were able to get both Glasnow and Keller, they'd be so stacked with pitching that I'd hope they'd flip a couple to Colorado for Brendan Rodgers. Not sure the Rockies would. And any team with pitching prospect depth (Pit to name one) could just trade for Rodgers if they wanted to.

Dodgers close to signing Jose Fernandez to minor league deal. Moving on from Dozier? Also, didn't realize he was still out there.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 8, 2017 -> 12:25 PM) I don't think they are interested in re-signing Arrieta, but that's just my gut. It won't be for lack of money though, they are already swimming in it and these ticket hikes aren't going to dampen demand one bit. Agreed. They may let Arrieta walk and sign one of the arms available next off-season instead

Cubs aren't in a position where they need to deal their top prospects.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 8, 2017 -> 07:36 AM) I normally don't object to minor league deals, but this is a bad player, bad actor, getting older, who plays positions you have plenty of mediocreish guys you can look at instead. I would imagine this is a Rick Renteria deal from his SD days. Agreed. This guy is probably the backup MI for Charlotte and even then that seems a stretch. I'd be shocked if he's with the organization past Spring Training.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 11:10 PM) It means next to nothing. Cabrera may not even get out of spring training. This. It seems like we have too much middle infield depth. Doubt everyone stays past Spring Training (minor league signings that is).

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 7, 2017 -> 08:57 PM) So, is this thing any closer to a resolution or is this dragging on until ST? Doesn't appear any closer to resolution. No idea when it will drag out until.