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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) I'm hoping Holland is decent enough to move in July for something. Maybe a lottery ticket, but I'm not even expecting that much. He'll probably just be a 1 year stopgap until guys like Giolito and Lopez are ready for full time roles.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:26 AM) I really think Washington tried to land free agent relievers but failed to sign any of them. Now they are sulking back to the White Sox complaining they can't pay money or prospects but want Robertson. Sox know they have the advantage because the Nats really do need him. Eventually I think they will bite the bullet and offer up a respectable package that includes either Fedde or Soto (likely Soto) plus another piece, which would be a quality move for the Sox We will eat 6-8 million of the contract to help offset some cost, and done deal I could live with that for sure. Soto looks intriguing and the Sox should definitely throw in money if it improves the package coming back. There's no reason not to.

Not expecting much from him at all. 5-11, 4.82 ERA, 143 K's, 1.47 WHIP, 6.2 K/9, and -0.2 WAR in 26 starts

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) For a team with world series aspirations the next two seasons, not having a proven backend of the bullpen can be a major issue. Say they roll with Treinen and Kelley as 8th and 9th inning options. That leaves them concerningly thin in the event one of them goes down with an injury. Bullpen issues could derail what is otherwise a championship caliber roster for the Nationals. I think they tried to get cute and have been burned by the market, now they might be forced into overpaying Agreed. They way overplayed their hand. They had a multitude of options and let them all go by. Now they have to get Robertson or they'll be burdened with a shaky bullpen for the beginning part of the season.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) No. I think he hits 9th probably. Tim Anderson should leadoff so he gets the most at-bats. 1. T. Anderson SS 2. J. Abreu 1B 3. M.Cabrera LF 4. T. Frazier 3B 5. M. Davidson DH 6. B. Lawrie 2B 7. A. Garcia RF 8. G. Soto C 9. C. Tilson CF That's a bad lineup and way RH. That lineup. Woof. Although I'd like to see Tilson in the 2 spot to see if he can handle it. I also don't see any way Davidson would hit 5th consistently unless they are full on tanking.

Sean Sears knows no more than any of us; just ignore him.

First time I've seen the Phillies connected to Q. https://www.fxtribune.com/m/?id=537307

Shields could be a blessing in disguise next year. The Sox need a high pick anyway so his ineffectiveness will actually be useful, lol.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 12:19 PM) Those 2 scenarios are also independent. Regardless of the return Q brings back, it's likely not helping us win any more or any less games this upcoming season. True. Either way, there is no way I would settle on Q if I was Hahn. Beer looks good now but he is far from a sure thing and there's no guarantee the Sox would get to take him anyway. Making him an integral part of the deal is not wise.

There's no way I take a lesser return for Q right now just to bank on getting Beer later. Sorry.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) Can you imagine if we can somehow land Robles? SoxTalk would have a field day I would literally jump off the roof of my house completely naked into a pile of bushes.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 10:24 AM) Rosenthal is now saying romo to dodgers pending physical. Hope that puts pressure in nationals now YES!!!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!!

Go... .274/.353/.402 with 7 HR's, 23 SB's, and 2.1 WAR

Is it safe to say that Q is on the team until the deadline if he isn't traded before pitchers and catchers report?

Robertson + $10 million for Juan Soto and Pedro Severino. That's the deal I wanted then and the deal I want now.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 5, 2017 -> 10:10 PM) Felt for a while now he was the replacement for Q if a move is made. It's fine though, don't mind Q staying based on some of these mediocre trade proposals. I don't think there's any correlation between the two moves at all. The Sox can easily sign a one year stopgap not named Hammel to round out the pitching staff for 2017 if Q is traded.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 5, 2017 -> 10:04 PM) Makes me think Q stays lol wut

This is way off topic but does anyone think the Sox should give Byung-Ho Park a shot? He was just DFAed by the Twins.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 12:18 PM) Draft pick can't be traded until the season starts. The MLBTR author of that article you posted pointed it out in the comments. I know. It can be traded later on as a continuation of the deal. There's no reason why the Sox couldn't get the pick in the trade.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 12:15 PM) I think I would take Martes (#1), Tucker (#2), Fisher (#5), Stubbs (#30). Is this too light, too much, or close? Replace Stubbs with Laureano or Reed and the draft pick and I'd do it.

The Astros have to man up and do this. Lunhow is only hurting himself by not pulling the trigger. The Astros rotation simply isn't good enough right now to be a serious World Series contender.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 10:41 AM) Perhaps just in time when they report to their fancy new spring-training digs in two weeks. #Astros. https://t.co/oMfTwx2pkb https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/827554091513606144 Replying to his tweet last night about astros adding another starter from the hacking fallout I think Bobby Boy knows something we don't...

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/02/jose...ors-astros.html

QUOTE (striker @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 09:24 AM) If the Rays turned down Martes, Tucker, Paulino, +2 prospects for Archer, then that would be my starting point for Quintana, except I don't want Paulino. I listened to the TalkingStros podcast with Jim Callis. Callis called Quintana underated one moment, then called him a solid #3 another. And his job is to evaluate players for a living. The host suggested Fisher, Paulino, Moran and the #75 pick. Q would out perform that. This might be the worst Q proposal I've seen so far.

Prediction - Jose Guillermo Quintana is traded for Kyle Tucker, Francis Martes, Ramon Laureano, and the 75th pick on February 10th at EXACTLY 3:24 PM.