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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) I think something like: SS Ozzie Albies, LHP Sean Newcomb, LHP Luiz Gohara, and 3B Austin Riley for Quintana would be a really good deal for the Sox. Gotta get more hitting than that. Substitute Newcomb or Gohara with Maitan and I'd consider it, but even then, Atlanta isn't my first choice.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 02:51 PM) The way to "extend your window of contention" would be to have high-upside talent flowing through your system constantly. I do agree though that Maitan shouldn't be a centerpiece. Well said, dad.

Which bullpen guy would the Mariners want that the Sox have? Surely it can't be Jones, and Robertson seems unlikely too. Jennings, Putnam, or Petricka perhaps?

QUOTE (Username @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 02:00 PM) Probably unrelated, but the Braves just traded Mallex Smith and a bullpen piece for two class A pitchers. One of which is a pretty well-regarded lefty. Would make sense if they're about to unload some young pitching for a front-line starter, like a bunch of people have been speculating recently (Justice, Bowman, etc.). Then again, could be absolutely nothing. Edit: Crasnick is now reporting another trade is coming, but from the Mariner's side. I was thinking this too. It would make sense.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 01:51 PM) Braves and Mariners make another traded. Braves receive: Luiz Gohara and Thomas Burrows (2 lefties). Mariners receive: Mallex Smith and Shae Simmons. Maybe the Sox want Gohara and Burrows and Atlanta needed to get them before Q is traded.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 11:59 PM) I know dreams die hard man but Micah...he sucks. He's almost 27 and just put up a resounding wRC+ of 82 in AAA. In 7 games at 2B for the Dodgers, he managed a wRC+ of 14 and the dodgers almost exclusively used him as a PR, they only gave him 4 innings at 2B. he hits like a s***ty SS and he fields like a s***ty 3B but can't actually play 3B, or any other position for that matter, other than 2B, where he has a decent arm and obviously range but zero natural baseball instinct or hands. His hands are brutal. Maybe you switch him to the OF but what does it even matter he can't hit for s*** anyways... He's too old to take a flyer on the Sox have better, younger options already on the 40 man. Like who? Please don't say Moncada as he shouldn't be a factor until June or July at the earliest.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:37 AM) So they have a desirable prospect who will hopefully one day be a special player in the big show. We get it. The White Sox have a desirable all-star starting pitcher who is 27 years old, durable and post #s better than guys making $30 million a season. If you want something special, you need to give something special. It's that simple. and nobody knows if Meadows and Bell will even be special. It's ridiculous that Pittsburgh isn't even willing to trade one of them.

I'm not thrilled with Atlanta besides their depth. Unless they were willing to move 6 or 7 pieces for Q, I wouldn't be interested.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 09:57 AM) Greg Holland wants 2 years with an opt out. Seriously, Sox should be all over this guy. Let him rebuild value and deal him off in July. Definitely. Signing Holland would also hopefully force Washington to get desperate and trade for Robertson.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 09:24 PM) Bastardo for $6.5 million isn't a terribly big deal to the White Sox but it could be a terribly big deal to the Pirates. Hell, he gets off to a good start and he could be movable at the deadline. Exactly. It's not a huge sum of money for the Sox to take on, but shedding that salary could be huge for Pittsburgh and make them send another prospect our way because of the money they would save. Just trying to think outside the box a bit.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 07:05 PM) Well I'm assuming its because money isn't the only thing holding up the deal. I'm just saying. Eating bad contracts for more prospects/draft picks is a crafty move a rebuilding team like the Sox should try to do once in awhile. I know that's not how they usually operate financially but Atlanta has employed a similar strategy and it benefited them.

I'd take him for sure. Assuming Frazier is traded, Lawrie can shift to 3B and the Sox can give Johnson a half season tryout or whatever until Moncada is ready. Give me Johnson over Sanchez or Leury anyday of the week.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 06:56 PM) Sox shouldn't have to take back a bad contract to trade Quintana They shouldn't, but if money is the only thing keeping the Sox from getting a guy like Meadows or Bell, I absolutely do it.

Why aren't the Sox willing to take a bad contract from Pittsburgh to facilitate a deal? Like Antonio Bastardo for example. Salary relief might ultimately be a deciding factor for the Pirates on what they'd be willing to give up.

I'd definitely bring Johnson back.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 12:30 PM) I think I was able to correct it to look more fair. Meadows, Keller, Hayes, and Diaz as a package deal isn't too bad IMO. Nice idea my friend.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 12:28 PM) Mike, Keller is a top 50 guy in some publications and will be when new lists are updated. That's too much IMO. How is a ML ready catcher the same as a fireballing reliever in A ball? Okay. Then take Diaz out or include someone like Jennings who is cost effective. All I know is that I really want Meadows, and Newman/Keller wouldn't be bad either.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) Is this 2007? I prefer "Devil Rays" instead of just "Rays". But it is out of date now haha.

Man you guys are like sharks smelling blood lol. It was just an idea.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 12:22 PM) That would be much better than the Sale return. There's no chance of this. Meadows and Glasnow are both top 10 prospects in baseball and Newman is a top 50 guy. If Meadows is involved, I'm guessing something like Meadows, Hayes, Diaz, flyer Give me Meadows, Newman, Keller, and Diaz. Meadows ~ Moncada Newman ~ Kopech Keller ~ Basabe Diaz ~ Diaz I think that's a fair outline.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 12:05 PM) Some of you guys seem to be at your wits end with this Quintana round-and-round and I am right there with you, but man be thankful were not Twins fans Fixed. Being a Sox fan is rough, but Twins fans have it even worse. It seems like they've been rebuilding forever and really have nothing to show for it. Dozier is their only valuable trade chip left and they're screwed if they mess up that trade.

We have almost 6,000 posts between the 2 Quintana threads. Impressive.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 11:57 AM) The problem i see with Newman is he hits balls on the ground + does not have elite speed to compensate for it. Look at how frustrating it's been watching Avi beat baseballs into the ground. Another problem with Newman is let's say he can hit, I don't think he will hit or field well enough to move Anderson from SS which leaves 2B for Newman but the Sox already have Moncada there. Newman is fine if he's the second best hitter coming over in a trade but if he's the first I would rather keep Q or consider one of the offers from the Braves and Astros. Agreed. Newman sticking at SS doesn't really benefit the Sox because they already have Anderson.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 10, 2017 -> 11:36 AM) They would get Quintana WHO WOULD BE HELPING THEM FROM OPENING DAY!!!! There's no could or maybe or if. This is so annoying haha Woah.

The Yankees are fools if they go into the season with their current rotation. It's Tanaka and a bunch of garbage. Tanaka isn't even a sure thing either.