ChiSoxFanMike

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 14, 2015 -> 08:21 PM) Your description of Springer is not how the Astros see Springer. Regardless, the Astros have an ace. They don't have another Springer. An Ace is not their missing ingredient. And Aces come available in the open market. There are 2 of them available this year. Players that the Astros think Springer is rarely do. There's a reason for that. We'll have to agree to disagree then. Ask any somewhat knowledgeable baseball fan who they'd rather have on their team and 95% or more of them would say Sale.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 14, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) They'd lose a lot of their O. I wouldn't do it if I were them. They've got an ace. Q would really solidify their rotation. They need pen help too. Let me ask you this - would you take him straight up for Sale? Not a chance, but the Astros would make that trade 100% of the time. Sale and Keuchel would be a lethal 1-2 combo and that doesn't even include McCullers or McHugh who are both pretty good in their own right. Is it easier to find a young outfielder with potential or a solidfied ace on an extremely team friendly deal? You know the answer to that.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 14, 2015 -> 07:22 PM) Doubt it. They think he's Trout-like. Or he will be. Another ace could put the Astros over the top. Imagine a rotation of Sale/Keuchel/McCullers/McHugh/Fiers That's a World Series winning rotation right there. They'd be dumb to not move Springer in a 1 for 1 swap like that.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 14, 2015 -> 06:56 PM) I put this article in the same category as Q for Starlin Castro. Silly stuff. The Astros would never give up Springer. They would give him up in a straight up deal for Sale. I can guarantee that.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 14, 2015 -> 04:14 PM) That's bad too. The package starts with Springer. or Altuve.

http://climbingtalshill.com/2015/11/13/hou...-sp-chris-sale/ LMAO at this article and the proposed "return" for Sale.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 10:13 PM) In your opinion? Well it's pretty obvious to everyone. Not according to some people on here... I've seen a few members on this website that think Sale is worth very little. It makes no sense to me.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 08:47 PM) It's always been sky high. I just don't see a team doing it. Now Quintana I could see a team going for. The interesting thing to think about is what could we get if we moved Q and Sale. Trading both of them would turn the farm system for the Sox from one of the worst in baseball to one of the best.

The Red Sox seem to be going "all in", so they're probably looking to acquire a frontline starter. What about a deal like Q for Swihart and Devers? Is that too little for Q or too much?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 07:05 PM) I'll take 3B prospect McMahon. Is Avi, Tyler Danish, and Micah Johnson for McMahon and LeMahieu fair?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 07:02 PM) Sale and Eaton for Betts, Bogaerts, Swihart, Devers, and Owens. Boston say no? Yes.

Sale is a lot more valuable than Kimbrel IMO.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 06:51 PM) Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 3m3 minutes ago #Padres getting Margot, Guerra, Asuaje, and Allen from #RedSox for Kimbrel, per @JonHeymanCBS, @alexspeier and others. Pretty damn good haul for a closer. I wonder what the Sox could get for DRob.

Now the Sale to Boston rumors will intensify even more.

I really want LeMahieu. He's a very solid player.

PRAISE THE F***ING LORD!!!

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 12:20 PM) Some of you are delusional. Aybar has consistently been an above average shortstop and now you are saying Saladino can be as good. Please. Saladino is most likely a solid utility guy but to take the leap to being better then Aybar, one of the better shortstops in the game, come on. I am not saying we should trade for Aybar, but I'm also not delusional to think that Saladino is better. I think Aybar is a good player and would make the Sox a better team, that said, he's older and I am not sure strategically where the Sox are headed this year (contention vs. rebuild). Aybar hit .270 with 3 homers and 44 RBI last year. Give Saladino the same amount of at-bats that Aybar had last year and he'd definitely hit more homers and drive in more runs. I doubt his average would be as good, but Saladino is a solid player nonetheless. He's also younger and cheaper.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 11:17 AM) Rather have Saladino or resign Alexei then trade assets for Aybar. This. Saladino can be just as good as Aybar for the minimum salary.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 08:47 AM) Surprised he's still only 22. Thought he was around 26, but he's been a top prospect since he was 18, so it makes sense. I don't think Montas is enough for him, though. It really does seem like he's been around forever. I bet a combo of Montas and Danish would get him. Then Profar could play short and Anderson can slide over to second.

Jurickson Profar is a guy that I would absolutely love on the Sox. He's still extremely young, cheap, and talented. Injuries are the only thing that have slowed him down. I wonder if Montas could get him in a 1-for-1 deal.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 12:23 AM) Sox sign David Murphy to play 3rd. David Murphy? Isn't he an outfielder?

QUOTE (daggins @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 08:00 PM) Fans overvalue their own players as a function of their fandom. That said, Boston would be dumb to trade either of those guys for Sale, let alone both. Which guys are you referring to?

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:57 PM) probably with drawls b/c of no baseball. Lol, for sure. I doubt that it will happen, but I would LOVE it if Sale spent his entire career with the Sox. He truly is one of the best pitchers this franchise has ever had.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) This...at a minimum. Heck, throw Swihart in there too. Chris is unreal and if he were on the Dodgers or Yankees, he'd have won a couple Cy Youngs. We happen to have him under contract at about 15% of his value. 100% agree. I probably overvalue Sale a little bit but everyone here seems so down on him right now and I don't get why.

QUOTE (daggins @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:48 PM) Benintendi is like 3 years away, and Swihart plays the position that has a shortage of impact talent. There aren't any good catchers available right now. Is Swihart really that good though? I know he has a lot of upside offensively, but he had 16 passed balls this past season according to Baseball Reference.