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Hell of a game right there for Carlos.

Did Steve just say "Rodan"? Oh boy.

Rodon is special. His stats are going to be really good next year when he's given a clean slate.

Correa, Lindor, and Sano all have a better chance to win than him sadly. But that doesn't discount what he's done this year. He's had a hell of a season, and he's improved so much from when he started. I can't wait to see how he does in a full season next year.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 19, 2015 -> 11:07 AM) I think he gets 3 starts. Needs 14 K's per start to get there. Won't happen. He will pass Walsh and get the single-season Sox record, though (barring injury). I agree that he should pitch to contact more. Yep. I'm not talking a major decrease in strikeouts, but I'd take 20 less of them a year if he can lower his ERA by .20 of a run at the same time. I guess it's more just personal preference. I'd prefer less strikeouts and a better ERA, but there are probably people that think the opposite.

QUOTE (coco1997 @ Sep 19, 2015 -> 10:51 AM) Maybe it's just my emotions getting the better of me after his last couple starts but I'm no longer completely opposed to the idea of trading Chris Sale. If I'm Rick Hahn I take a good hard look at the state of our offense and see what a team like the Dodgers would give us for Chris. The Dodgers are maybe the only team, IMO, who would be willing to part with anything close to Sale's value. Of course, I would also want a high-end pitching prospect in the deal to somewhat offset the blow of losing Sale. Seager and Urias would have to be included, minimum, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hahn needed another top prospect or two as well. But I still think it's unlikely that the Sox move him at all. We can't discount the past 4 years of dominance because of 2 or 3 bad starts in a lost season.

Well, he's at 259 now with 2, maybe 3 starts left, so I don't see him getting to 300 this year. It's still been a hell of a season though. However, am I the only one that wouldn't mind if his K rate went down a little bit next year if he pitched to contact more? I'm not talking a major decrease in strikeouts, just a little. I think pitching to contact would help extend his outings and lower his ERA. I think he'd have a much better chance at the Cy Young at the end of the season if if he was 13-11 or so with a 2.80 ish ERA with 240 K's instead of 13-11 with a 3.50 ERA with 275 K's.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 19, 2015 -> 07:10 AM) I agree. Its a little strange since he isn't going to win Cy Young award any way. I know that, but he's still one of my all time favorite players so I want him to end the season strong in preparation for next year.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 10:57 PM) Cespedes is just what KW ordered: low OBP off of a career year. I would consider trading Eaton. He's a clown, but his stats are good and should yield a couple of good players. Trayce can play CF (better than Eaton can). What do you mean by that? I think the argument could be made that Eaton has been the second best hitter on the team all season long. He is also cost controlled and fairly young, so I'm not sure why the Sox would want to move him.

I can't be the only one who thinks that the Sox HAVE to take a hitter with their first pick, right? They already have a bunch of young stud pitchers, but not many hitters. I'd ideally like a catcher or third baseman with some pop, but we'll have to see.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 10:12 PM) Thank God those Sale runs were unearned. I was cringing at the thought of his ERA before I saw the box score. lol, we are so much alike. Whenever he gives up a homer or a run scoring hit, my heart starts pounding in agony of what his ERA will rise to. I'm crazy haha.

Thanks for the quick responses, gents. Much appreciated.

Where do the Sox sit in the draft at this point?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 08:21 PM) 116 pitches in a blowout It was thinking the same thing. It's probably a major reason why he's faded down the stretch. He's been so overused throughout the season and he's probably tired.

I don't get Flowers pitch selection at all. Earlier in the game, Lindor struck out horribly on a low and inside slider. So what does Flowers call? A fastball right down the middle. Wonderful.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 08:08 PM) I think that is the toughest one to fill for any team. It's not a glamorous position. In fairness though, Flowers and Soto together have put up more than respectable numbers both offensively and defensively.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 08:01 PM) That's BS to throw at our pitcher

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 07:51 PM) He could have thrown a perfect game tonight and I would have said same thing. Looking at mookie's numbers just now on fangraphs just makes me want a mega-deal with Boston even more Hypothetically, who would you want from Boston? Betts, Bogaerts, and someone else?

QUOTE (beautox @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) Thats how i feel. Sale to the dodgers makes a ton of sense; getting Seager + Barnes at the major league level + Urias and some other prospects would go a long way in helping this franchise. As sad as it would be to see him go, I think it's for the best to trade him as well for a couple reasons. 1. He deserves to be on a playoff team for once 2. The return for him would be franchise changing. 3. The Sox won't win with him here.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 07:43 PM) Can't assume a double play though It would've been an easy double play if everything happened like normal.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) Just a guess but I think that's going to change. The error was made with one out in a 0-0 game. Why would it change? Sanchez booted an easy DP ball that would've gotten him out of the inning.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 07:25 PM) The Sox need to push Sale a bit in an effort to build his endurance. Sale will never be an October playoff pitcher if he tires out in September. As long as Sale is healthy he should be out there for as many starts as he can make. There's no need for that as long as he's on the Sox.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 07:19 PM) It would be really nice to get him 200+ innings this year. Even if he's dead for the last 2 starts. Innings mean nothing to me. I just want him to break the Sox strikeout record and then they can shut him down.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 07:09 PM) Wow Sale sucks right now. Anyone still think he's having a better year than Arrieta or deserves Cy Young consideration If I didn't know any better, I'd think that you're a Cubs fan by the way you post on here. You literally never post anything positive about the Sox, ever.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 18, 2015 -> 07:08 PM) Everyone is allowed to make an error dude. He's been stellar there all year. It happens. Not like this is a must win game. I know, I just hate that Sale will get a loss for this. He should've been out of this inning without any damage done.