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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 12:38 PM) Fulmer was thought to be maybe a tiny step behind where Rodon was. I could totally see him in the bigs next year and I could totally see him taking Danks's spot at some point during the year. I'd also agree with "not rushing him" but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him starting at AAA next year and moving up rapidly. Would it be more likely to see Fulmer taking Danks' spot next year if we were contending or not contending?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 12:13 PM) No way, I can see them with the same path as Rodon next year. Rodon started the year in AAA and bypassed AA. Is Fulmer as major-league ready as Rodon was? Unless we kick Danks to the bullpen or trade EJ/Q there's really no room for him in the rotation next year. No need to rush him, let him take over Danks' spot when his contract is up next season.

Great read, seems like all the guys have good attitudes, great to see out of Adams especially at such a young age. I know our minor league staff constantly gets s*** on for not developing position players but I feel they don't get enough praise for the work they've done with pitchers, and it seems like Perdew has been a big part of that.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 09:09 AM) This is where we speculate, because I feel that while we weren't going to receive a top return; judging by what Kazmir received (and figuring Shark would command less) we could have still picked up atleast one teams Top 10 prospect. I'll never believe that they were going to trade Shark in the WC position they were in unless blown away with an offer. This is my issue, because many of us knew the true nature of the team and didn't want the illusion of competing to cloud their judgement. That's why I hope if they ever find thenselves in a similar circumstance they don't hesitate to trade Meh, I'd glad we kept him instead of trading him for a team's top 10 prospect, especially if it was a team with a farm system that isn't that deep. The supplemental pick could give us another guy like Spencer Adams, who is far better than a team's #10 prospect.

Greg I'm surprised you don't put $1,000+ moneyline on the Royals every time they play the Sox.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 07:25 PM) What fanbase that hardly ever makes the playoffs and has 1 world title in 100 years isn't miserable? Ever visit a New York knicks board? Mariners? Come on, don't sell the fans s*** and call it gold. This franchise and this ownership group has not been good overall. 1 title in 100 years does not, and will not ever, negate that. Just on average you'd have expected 3 titles or more over a 100 years, and that's average. I never said it was good overall, and I can't wait for JR to sell and KW to leave, I guess I just don't understand putting so much energy into something that constantly makes you miserable. I understand that this franchise doesn't make the playoffs that often and only has 1 title in the last 98 years, but from my perspective as a 25-year-old fan, it really hasn't been that bad. I don't really give a s*** how many titles the White Sox won well before I was born, what they did in the 1920s and 1930s has no relevance at all to today. Besides, judging so heavily on titles feels a little misguided IMO given the randomness of the sport. Was the last decade a failure for the Tigers? We won a title but I'd still give the Tigers the edge here. The Marlins have won 2 titles recently due to a couple lucky playoff runs but have been a complete joke of a franchise otherwise. My roommate is a big Phillies fan and he has said multiple times that from 2008-2011 the Phillies got better every year but did worse in the playoffs every successive year. Their worst team in that run was the only one to get it done, and the best one by far got bounced in the first round. Hell, I think that the 2006 and 2011 Cardinal teams were two of their worst teams in the last 15 years, yet those were the two that won the titles. The baseball playoffs are just so random that I don't put as much stock into who actually wins it because the best team rarely wins it all. It's still important but not nearly as much as in other sports IMO (especially the NBA). I realize that even taking away titles the outlook doesn't look that great for us, but would so many fans here be so disgruntled right now if we had made the playoffs in two of the 2006, 2010, and 2012 seasons? I don't think so. We were very close in all three of those years, a couple small things go differently and I don't think so many fans are on the ledge if we had made the playoffs 4 times in a decade. That's not to say that I give them a pass for not making the playoffs those seasons, but this has hardly been a Pirates or Royals-like run of complete suckitude for several decades. I still had a ton of fun in those three seasons even if we ultimately didn't make the playoffs.

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 09:03 AM) The Sox love free-swingers, I guess. Not really, we're smack dab in the middle of the AL in the last decade in strikeouts.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 06:53 PM) Even in a post like this, you manage to again to clearly note that we have a bandwagon fan base. It is a fact of Soxdom. I don't know why everyone is so offended by this, as if it weren't true or something. You can make whatever excuses you want, and justify it however you want, but the numbers are what the numbers are. I don't feel that is is particularly "astute" to pretend that reality doesn't exist. If I didn't read the perpetual complaining about pretty much everything post after post after post about it, there wouldn't be anything to respond to. In fact I honestly can't comprehend how so many people can take so much of a negative experience from this franchise, yet keep coming back to complain about it. If things are really that bad, why in the world are you still wasting time on it? If this has really let you down for 49 of the past 50 years, and you STILL come back for more, the problem lies much deeper than a franchise's overall success rate. Afterall you know what the definition of insanity is... Agreed, there's a contingent of Sox fans that are always miserable and you wonder why they haven't gone to another team already if they hate the franchise so much. I'm not happy with the current state either but I don't get the point of endlessly complaining. Yeah we're a bandwagon fanbase but so are most fanbases so meh. We're hardly unique there.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) for me, i always thought of the person who is stating that Q is a #1 or ace, well as being a hard core fan. i have no problem saying that Q is a weak #2 solid #3. now if he a better offense or team.... that may move him to a solid #2. Quintana is at worst a very good #2. You don't judge pitchers on the quality of the team around them, especially the offense.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 03:48 PM) Our offense is middle-of-the-pack in terms of K rate. Same against lefties. I don't think Sale would be more likely to strike out 17 White Sox than most other teams. Yeah we're 19th in strikeouts and 8th in the AL (that is, 18 offenses have struck out more than us), there's no reason to think Sale would strike out more White Sox hitters than normal.

I really want to see Sale face our offense now (not on another team, just hypothetically), I wonder how he would do.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) Indians got exposed pretty quick in that wild card game. I think they were like 15-4 against the SOX. It was ridiculous. It was actually 17-2, just laughably bad.

The good news is that Johnson won't have to do much to be an improvement over Samardzija next season.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:55 PM) His FIP is 4.08, his ERA 4.85. I have watched most of the games. I don't think defense costs him 3/4 of a run per 9 innings, over the number errors do, which is already built into his ERA, unless they want to set up in the seats. Although that is still a HR. FIP not matching ERA is not 100% defense related, some general luck is factored in there as well. Like it or not it's a way better predictor of future performance than ERA is. But if you want batted ball data taken into account, use SIERA instead, which is an even better predictor than FIP. Samardzija's FIP since the trade deadline is 5.34 anyway, it's not like the advanced stats have liked him much either.

QUOTE (tpezz27 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) Out of the 86 qualified pitchers who have thrown enough innings, Quintana is 61st in whip, and 85th out of 86 in hits allowed. Only Samardzija has allowed more hits then him....I just don't see him being anywhere near "ace" material, aces just don't get hit that hard. And comparing his value to Sale's is laughable. He's 17th among pitchers in fWAR this year, and 12th since the start of 2013. His BABIP this season is .343, second highest in baseball. He's been pretty unlucky there. If you don't like FIP then he's 25th in SIERA, which takes into account batted ball data. If you look at his batted ball profile, he's giving up the weakest contact of his career. His value is a lot closer to Sale's than you think.

So happy that this story is finally done with, dumbest sports "controversy" I've ever heard about. I couldn't care less whether the footballs were deflated or not.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 10:55 AM) KC series: Danks - Medlen Quintana - Duffy Johnson - Cueto Maybe a Saturday win, but probably not. Danks always does well against KC though.

I know Greinke has the miniscule ERA but Kershaw deserves the Cy Young over him, and IMO it's not even close. 35 swing and misses tonight, that's insane.

Man when did half the posts on this board just become complaining?

Yes we used to be pretty horrible at drafting and scouting, but IMO they've had very solid drafts the last few years since Hahn took over, it will be a few more years before we can really evaluate them. Also continuing to pick pitchers is not really a problem. It's what the Sox do well and if you end up with too much pitching then you can just trade it for hitting. It's not a big deal.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 08:22 PM) I bet the Dodgers will total that for 2. Is one of those 2 going to be Greinke? I don't really see them shelling out that much for a guy who will be 32 next season. There's also pretty much no chance he gets anywhere close to a 1.60 ERA again, he's been insanely lucky with both BABIP and LOB%, with both marks being significantly off his career averages.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 08:11 PM) By the way, let's hope the Twins don't put out a "Twins' Way" notebook on how they go about beating up Chris Sale pretty consistently. Never would have thought Sano (coming off the injury) would be the one who delivered on all the hype and more compared to Buxton...but it just goes to show how much love there is for five-tool players and how often we end up disappointed when they fail to meet their projections. It's early though, for every 50 Cameron Maybins or Kenny Williams, Jr., there's usually one Trout or Harper. I'm really not worried about Sale with the Twins. It's not like they owned him in the past. In 2013 the Indians kicked the s*** out of Sale (22 ER in 23 innings), but since then Sale has had ERAs of 2.18 and 1.80 against them the last two seasons.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 06:30 PM) I watched one of those painful Kap & Haugh cubs deep-throating videos on CSN and they were saying if the cubs extend Arrieta & sign Price they will end up shelling out almost a half billion for 3 arms. Incredible. And they aren't young dudes. I kind of hope they do sign Price because that might actually close their window, financially speaking. 4 years from now they could be in some real financial trouble unless they get all Dodgersy. It would certainly make things tough when their position players are ready to be paid. Putting all that money into pitchers over 30 does not seem like a good idea, but if it brings them a title it'll probably be worth it.

https://twitter.com/iamjoonlee/status/638850904083595264 Montage of Hanley Ramirez's "defense" in LF this year.

Hammel has pitched more than 5.2 innings in a start only once in his last 9 starts. With Lester being shaky every other start and Hendricks being bad the last 5 weeks or so, that rotation suddenly looks very vulnerable.