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All this talk about how the bullpen has been awful but they're 9th in WAR and ERA in the MLB. You sure like to exaggerate Caulfield. Even if you want to go by WPA the bullpen is still in the top half of the league.

Anderson was robbed of his 2nd walk! Should have had a perfect day.

Game Day says that was high out of the zone, what did it look like live? I'm pissed that we aren't getting a 2-walk Anderson game.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 01:40 PM) Semien's on pace to be a 3.5 WAR player this year...god damn it. There's a chance that the return the A's got for Samardzija ends up better than the return the Cubs got for Samardzija. That's pretty crazy.

QUOTE (kev211 @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 11:58 AM) First time playing a team under .500 since May 19, and that team was the now over .500 Astros What about the Tigers the first series of June? They were 25-28 entering that series.

QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jun 28, 2016 -> 11:53 AM) Indeed, to this point they have, and it needs to continue. They put themselves in this position. You can't expect to go undefeated against any team, no matter how bad though.

The Rangers are 19th in wRC+ and they have a crazy-good record in 1-run games despite a bullpen ERA of 4.69. I read an article about how they're currently on pace to be the luckiest team of all-time in terms of sequencing. Way too early to just put them into the World Series out of the AL. They're much closer to a .500 team than their current record in terms of true talent. They've had quite a run recently but I'm not at all convinced they're the best team in the AL.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 03:13 PM) What is that though, 4 starts? Even last game looked like he through just over 60% for strikes. I am glad he's doing well but I don't think he's shown enough yet to move him to the MLB for our fifth starter. It's a small sample but he is moving in the right direction at least. I didn't mean to imply I wanted him in the rotation, I completely agree that he shouldn't be there yet.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 27, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) Really want to see Fulmer get his K's and strike percentage up before moving up. I am very happy Beck came back from injury strong, but I really wish we could get more K power pitchers in pen. Maybe him going all out gets his velocity up and gets more swings and misses, but I wish he could have made it as a starter. Would have made a lot of things easier if Erik Johnson and Beck panned out. Fulmer has 39 K in his last 29 IP, has cut his walk rate to just 8% over that period too. ERA over that stretch is still uninspiring (4.34 ERA), but the peripherals are starting to look good for him (only 1 HR in that stretch too), which is encouraging. EDIT: Those numbers don't include his latest start last night, 7 shutout innings with 7 K and 2 BB.

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/potential...dseason-update/

I will never stop beating the "Paulo Orlando is actually not good" drum.

IMO "playoff contender" and "World Series contender" are redundant terms, they're one and the same in baseball. Just have to be good enough to get there.

I'm more concerned with the strikeouts than the walks. I'd be happy with a 3-4% walk rate if he can play good defense and hit for moderate power. He's a guy who can likely sustain a high BABIP (.340-.350 range), so if he can get his K-rate down near 20% then he could be great.

He's definitely exceeded expectations for me so far, but those plate discipline numbers are pretty scary. 32% strikeout rate and no walks? That 45% O-Swing percentage combined with just a 60% Z-Swing percentage looks pretty scary too. Still way early though, and I think he has what it takes to adjust. I don't mind the aggressive approach as long as he's swinging at strikes too, but he's been below-average in that. Hopefully that will come with time. Defense is the most important thing out of your SS though, so the fact that he's played well there is extremely encouraging. I say B+.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jun 25, 2016 -> 01:02 AM) The whining about the miserable whiners is actually worse than the whining of the miserable whiners The ranks of the miserable whiners would thin, and the decibel level of the the whining would subside, if the organization could at least figure out how to put a team on the field that could play .500 I guess I'll never quite get the loyalty toward a brain trust who's expiration date has long since past What about the whining about the whining about the miserable whiners? That may be worst of all.

Robot umps please, I still find it ridiculous that a huge part of a catcher's value is his ability to fool the ump, that shouldn't be part of the sport. By far my least favorite part of baseball.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 03:56 PM) We do it multiple times every day. I get once in a while like Boston, not not ever f***ING time Is there a way to actually look this up? Curious to see where we rank.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 02:57 PM) Also important to remember that Sale has this same offense to give him the same run support as Q and he's still 27 over. That's remarkable really. Just because they pitched for the same team doesn't mean they received the same run support. The offense is scoring almost 2 runs/game more for Sale than Quintana this year.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) That pop up...lol. What happened?

Still time for Shields to give up lots of runs, but people didn't actually think he was going to keep giving up 6+ runs every start, did they?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 23, 2016 -> 01:42 PM) I'd love to get a few more so we can drill Papi right in the ass If by a few more you mean 10 then sure.

Paulo Orlando isn't even any good, pretty much his entire batting line is being propped up by a ~.500 BABIP right now.

Latos was not a negative move. In a world where mediocre starters get 12-15 million a year, 3 million is nothing, his April alone made the move worth it. If Rollins played any major part in getting LaRoche to retire, and it sounds like he did, then he was actually one of Hahn's better moves regardless of what he did on the field, and that's not including anything he might have done for Anderson and Saladino as a veteran presence. Beckham for 2 million was also fine, he was worth 0.3 WAR as a bench player, he earned his small paycheck. I also think people way overrate how bad the Duke move was, and it's hilarious that Greensox is mad that the Sox traded over the hill veterans in Rios (no he didn't help win a title, he was one of their worst players), Thornton and De Aza, way to talk out of both sides of your mouth. That's not the only thing you're being inconsistent with either. You can't hate on the Freddy Garcia trade because "it looked bad on paper" at the time and ignore the end result, while doing the exact opposite with many of the moves listed here.

Can we petition the league office to only have non-ALC opponents the rest of the season?

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 22, 2016 -> 03:00 PM) If this is true, why just flat out ignore any information that can add to the discussion? Because I still can't think of an example where W-L record actually adds to the discussion. Looking at W-L record tells you nothing about how good a pitcher is. Yes, the good pitchers tend to have good records and the bad pitchers tend to have bad records, but there's way too many examples where it lies to be meaningful. Shelby Miller led the MLB in losses last year at 6-17 and yet was one of the best pitchers in baseball. Drew Hutchison had the 7th worst ERA last year among SP with at least 100 IP yet he had a 13-5 record. All the variables pointed out in this thread (how deep a pitcher goes into games, how he pitches in close games/high leverage situations, etc.) are important but can't be gleaned from a pitcher's W-L record (and for every example of a pitcher who didn't get wins because he didn't go deep enough into games or pitched poorly in close games, there's a counter-example of a pitcher who did the same but was bailed out by their offense). If a pitchers' W-L record tells me nothing about how well a pitcher pitched, then why bother with it? A pitcher can get spotted a 5-run lead, then immediately give up 6 runs the next inning, but then be bailed out by the offense and still get the win. On the other hand, a pitcher can throw a no-hitter and give up runs due to 2 errors by the defense and take a loss. It provides zero context. Give me a specific example where it provides meaningful discussion about a pitcher, because there haven't been any in this thread to this point.