SonofaRoache

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 10:59 PM) Well, considering most of the board has Stephens going to the bullpen...Clarkin, theoretically, has a bit more value as a LHP and theoretical #4/5 starter. Now whether he's ahead of Guerrero, I'll let those who follow the minors more closely make that decision in terms of the upsides for each. At this point luck will play a big factor, health is more important than anything. Clarkin definitely has the higher upside as a back end starter. If all goes well these guys will become bullpen pieces anyway. I'd love to see a rotation of Kopech-Gio-Rodon-Lopez-Cease in a few seasons. Sadly I think Rodon will not be here long term.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 10:00 PM) Can we argue that Clarkin is now ahead of Guerrero/Stephens as the next starter in line after Dunning? 1) Kopech 2A) Cease 2B) Hansen (I know some will argue it's not quite fair to jump Cease up so quickly, but...) 3) Dunning 4) Clarkin 5/6) Guerrero or Stephens Talent wise, Clarkin is arguably ahead of Dunning, but hopefully he can stay healthy. We are in a pretty good position, especially if Rodon comes back strong.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 08:45 PM) One of the Boston sportswriters compared Moncada and Benintendi to the second coming of Fred Lynn and Jim Rice. A potential All-Star and HOF. That would be pretty close to your thoughts. Pretty sure the timing was in 2 phases. At the All star break, the talk was White Sox wanted Moncada and Boston offered Benintendi. Some Boston rumors said Whhite Sox wanted both. They arrived together in Boston during a pennant drive. Benintendi produced and Moncada was sent back. So when the trade happened off-season, the Red Sox were then willing to offer Moncada after what Benintendi showed. I think of it as the upside between a high ceiling High schooler and a polished college kid. The high schooler will struggle early on, but when he hits, he will surpass the college kid. Moncada struggles shouldn't be a big surprise, although his K rate is tough for someone with that great of an eye.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 09:24 PM) It's symbolic of the bottom of the 12 years of mediocrity since 2006. It's appropriate since SonofaRoache's posts are bottom of the barrel. He mocks the organization and the fans. Lol, the Earth will rotate tomorrow. I care about this organization and will ride them until they get things straight. They've mocked themselves more than I ever could, which even led to my screen name.

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 09:14 PM) Your name is "SonofaRoache" You don't respect White Sox players enough to use their real names. Are you on the right board? Do you struggle to type in "Cubs.com"? I created this name because when I first got here people in this organization and on this forum blew that situation out of proportion. It's a mockery of that and not the player or his son. Also, I am not an ass kisser and neither should any fan be. I loswe respect for people who only want to talk about the positive and anything negative is catastrophic. I chose to call him HeGoan mostly in jest because of the overreaction to his struggles, and his struggles themselves. I will stop when he stops K'ing at an alarming rate or when people stop overreacting about it.

QUOTE (Quin @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 09:14 PM) HeGoan is the worst nickname since HoT fIrE. And what other package was out there for Sale that comes close, especially if we discount the players in the Eaton package. That wasn't the point. The point was the evaluation of that trade shouldn't be Sale for 6.5 years of Moncada and Kopech, when history may show other options were better. Also, I said the trade needed to happen as it did and we shouldn't regret it no matter the results.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 06:43 PM) And I'm not sure than even swapping out Benintendi for Moncada (which would have been impossible due to his rookie season's positive results) would have put the franchise in an even better position...because there are clear limits to Benintendi's ceiling (see Ian Happ). Borderline All-Star, sure, because of the team he plays for, put not a franchise-altering type of talent, either. What is his ceiling, and what is HeGoan's? Not to say you are wrong, I'm just curious to see what people think of their potential.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 11:15 AM) I agree... Yeah but he will have a ton of interest as a sole huge name.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 10:39 AM) I just don't see Harper going to the Cubs. If they did they'd have to get rid of one of Bryant, Rizzo or Contreras, otherwise I'm not sure how they could have four $25M+ contracts. He probably wants to be a Cub so they will make it happen. They can keep their core for 3 or 4 years with how deep their pockets are.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 02:57 PM) Ya don’t say! It needed to be stated because the incidental implication of the post was that 6.5 years of Yoan and Kopech being greater than Sale, was the only option.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 02:19 PM) 6.5 years of Kopech + 6.5 years of Moncada + whatever Basabe becomes > 3 years of Sale with a Sox team mired in mediocrity Not if HeGoan Moncado doesn't step it up, which he we all think he will. Sale could have theoretically been traded for a different package as well. No matter what happens, the Sox needed to make this deal.

QUOTE (35thstreetswarm @ Apr 12, 2018 -> 11:45 AM) Even the Cubs were getting negative pub during their rebuild with pictures of vast empty spaces within Wrigley (though obviously never as empty as what we saw this week). This is a rebuild year. We'll be bad, and attendance will be bad. I thought everybody was clear on this. This line of thinking is unacceptable for most fans who care about this team. In general we aren't concerned with losses but they shouldn't have come now. Detroit is 1 and 9 outside of their sweep of us. Tampa Bay is 1 and 10 outside of beating us. I don't mind losing in Toronto or getting bashed by the other Sox, Yankees, etc, but the Tigers and Rays going 5 and 1 against us in Chicago?

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Apr 13, 2018 -> 10:54 AM) Just don't see Machado to the Red Sox, he's Yankees or bust i think. My bad, I meant Yankees for MM.

Harper- Cubs Machado- Red Sox Donaldson- Nationals

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 11, 2018 -> 08:10 AM) Revolution Brewing room down the LF line isn't a bad hang out either although if you aren't there early, the line to get in goes down the stairs. Waiting in line while at a game sort of defeats the purpose of going to the game. That'll get sorted out eventually.

Yeah my Cubbie friends sent me about 40 text messages talking crap. Weather had a lot to do with it but fans aren't coming out to see bad baseball, rebuild or not.

QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 12:04 PM) The only thing that matters. All the contending teams are going to have a boatload of money to spend as well. Dodgers, Cubs, Yankees, Sox, etc.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2018 -> 11:44 AM) You must be new here. Welcome to the rebuild. If you are looking for a winning team, you might want to check back in a year or two. Where did I say I was looking for a winning team? The vibe and expectation for this team was to show something. And something would be not getting swept at home by bad teams. We want to attract top tier FA's after this season so it's really important for us to not be a complete bottom feeder.

If we are going to struggle against teams on 7 game losing streaks we might as just tell the fans to stay home until July.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 8, 2018 -> 02:54 PM) Sure if they spend money to fill holes and young guys improve Our young guys will need another year of seasoning. Kopech and Jimenez will need a full season or two.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 8, 2018 -> 02:52 PM) Ricky's team is awful also Playoffs next year?

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 8, 2018 -> 12:10 PM) There aren't 4k people at this game. No wonder there were 300 level tickets for $9/ticket at noon. Fans aren't going to show up to watch this team in weather under 60. If they keep playing like this they won't see many fans until next year.

Just not a good inning. Can't let a pitcher off the hook with the bases packed and no outs.

I'm not all that concerned about Yoan's potential, but I also understand people need to vent. I said last year that this season was going to turn half of our fan base off. It's gonna truly suck to watch Sox baseball this year and I can't blame fans for not wanting to watch bad baseball against bad teams. Yoan was hope for our fans and a chance to see the rebuild taking off. His struggles so far is probably scaring people into thinking things may not be going so well. Then there is the fact the Cubs will be competing for a title this year and those of us living in the city will have to endure cubbie blue everywhere we go. Guys like Bryant, Rizzo, Hendricks, Russell, Happ etc came in right away playing well. We will get through this painful year folks, and as Sox fans we will do it together.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Apr 5, 2018 -> 09:06 PM) I don't know if you were joking but in late October the sun isn't out at 10PM. Yesterday a gentlemen stated that he sought shade at 10PM of a game he attended on 6/21.