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Tonight's game on WGN is a free over the air broadcast. My new RCA ant751 antenna in the attic (from Wallyworld) is giving me a picture as good as cable. Thanks to whomever it was that recommended that to me here.

The fact is there isn't a single metric other than anecdotal speakings that support what you are saying, while every single measurable fact from multiple generations worth of data falls in my camp. Perhaps your camp is on the North Side. The biggest fallacy of your camp is that gauging the amount of fan support by attendance figures at the park is inherently flawed. Wrigley is walking distance for many fans. Bridgeport is rapidly being gentrified and the South loop continues to creep toward 35th street, so that is changing. Many, many things concerning the fan base have changed over the years and will change in ways that one cannot predict. Joe Ricketts over-developed the Wrigley site and all that Ameritrade money maximized exposure. It won't last forever. Nothing does. Sox outdrew the Cubs in several years before 1980 and in 1982, 1983, 1984 before the Harry Caray clown show moved to the North side. They will again at some point but in the meantime, there are many more Sox fans than Cub fans right now inside the city limits and in the South suburbs, and they are proving to be quite resilient.

"a nice Hispanic family who just wants to bully their way out of the parking lot, or the 3 of them, including their kid, may open your car door and go through your window to assault you, then chase down the car as you try to drive away, beating at the windows and yelling. " "What is racist about that? Unless it you think they committed a hate crime, which I don't have any real reason to assume. They were just very concerned with cutting people off in the parking lot. Their son did use racial slurs, but none that actually made sense to the race in which he yelled them at. " Your initial comment was in the third person as though this was a hypothetical, then you say something about racial slurs in the first person. I am Hispanic and found your comments to be blatantly bigoted and provocative. That is why I responded,. I know you won't apologize so please, just stop. Thanks.

"Don't talk back to a nice Hispanic family who just wants to bully their way out of the parking lot, or the 3 of them, including their kid, may open your car door and go through your window to assault you, then chase down the car as you try to drive away, beating at the windows and yelling. " Really? I did not think bigoted, racist, or political posts were allowed by the terms of service here.

I am OK with allowing Moncada to show what he has (or doesn't have) this season because it provides the Sox organization with a lot of information to process in a throw away season. Similarly, I would bring Eloy , Robert, Case, Kopech or anyone else who is even close to major league ready at the outset on the 2019 season. I don't think the "he is not ready to come up t the majors" is a valid argument for any of the top prospects when some of the placeholders on the 25 man roster are a joke. In short, I think 2019 should start off with all hands on deck. I will always be a great fan of the White Sox and because of that, I do not want to see another year like this. This is just awful.

Tim Anderson saw the catch then stopped running. It was a natural instinct. Players don't run out line drives that are caught for outs. And normally they don't get benched for it.

I get why Moncada was mentioned. There are a lot of prospects and players that fans fall in love with so to speak, but then end up as average players who never fulfill the high expectations fans had for them. So, consider the possibility that Fulmer becomes a middle inning long reliever, not even a set-up 8th inning reliever. Is that what fans expected of a high first round Draft pick? Maybe some would be happy with that but not me, not when the Sox need some star players for this rebuild. The Sox cannot blow high first round Draft picks for average major league talent. This may come off as sarcastic and I don't mean it that way but the thought came to mind last night watching the 9th that Davidson has better stuff than Fulmer.

WTH is dat? LOL. It's a typo like say, mofo. Moncada can't hit Left Handed pitchers as a Right Handed hitter. But you knew that. He cannot start games against against LEFT HANDED starters if continues to hit .147 against them LOL He doesn't want to play third base and anyway, Yolmer is probably a better defender there with a superior arm. PERHAPS Madrigal could beat Moncada out for the second base job, maybe as soon as next season. My guess is that Madrigal will make all the routine plays just like he did in College, and will hit for a much higher average than Moncada and avoid all the strike outs. Moncada touted as the number one prospect in all of baseball has not yet lived up to that rating.

Moncada cannot be a full time starter if he cannot hit RH pitching, and thus far, he seems to have proven that he can't. I'm not buying excuses. This season is over half way done, Moncada will be 24 next year and Madrigal will be challenging for second base.

I thought it would be a fun exercise to theoretically construct a roster for the 2019 season that could potentially win it all. I like the thought and appreciate your take on this. The Sox moves made prior to and during the 2005 caught lightning in a bottle for us. It would take a lot of luck, imagination and guile to duplicate that success as well as an enormous capital investment in player contracts. To have a championship season once again, the Sox need to have at least a few All Star level players and pitchers who reach a crescendo with their careers in the same year.

I'll bite As long as we are in the theatre of the absurd ....ok, If the Sox would be willing to sign Machado to an enormous contract just trade for him right now. I'd even offer Moncada for a package with Machado and a high prospect if that is what it would take. Then let Yolmer play second base until Madrigal is ready. Yea, I know, Moncada is the centerpiece of the rebuild, the guy we got for Sale.

Personally I could live with TA at SS or 3rd with sub-standard D if he hits the ball out of the park more, walks more and steals more.Tim can do all of that. I cannot live with Moncada starting every day at any position if he only hits .150 against LH pitching. That has gotten ridiculous.

Moncada can't hit left hand pitching after parts of three season in the majors and 140 or so ABs against LH pitching. On this forum it is not good enough to opine that a player might develop as a RH hitter. There has to be some statistic or a statistical trend to bolster one's argument or some definite short term trend that meets the eye test. Otherwise, I suppose, some attempt by the player to change his approach, or in this case, perhaps to have Moncada stop batting RH altogether and platoon with someone who can play second and hit LH pitching. I guess Moncada will have the rest of the 2018 season to prove he can hit LH pitching. If he can't then there are other options and decisions to be made. I am really disappointed in what it appears we got for Chris Sale, at least to this point. Time will tell though.

I would rather keep Abreu if he can be signed on a three year deal, not five. Meanwhile, Avi Garcia looks like he is the guy who hit .330 last season. His reputation suffers from initial perceptions that he was going to have a lot of swing and miss in his game and that he was slow. Instead he looks like he is turning into one of the leagues best hitters and he has uncommon speed for a player his size. Way underrated, in my opinion.

Moncada recently said that in hindsight, he was glad the Red Sox traded him so that he could play where he feels comfortable...second base. Madrigal probably does not have a strong enough arm to play on the Left side of the infield and make the longer throws. There is no room in the outfield for Tim Anderson and no reason to move him from SS unless the Sox have someone who can play SS better and hit.

Maybe Ti'Quan Forbes is in the running (among in-house options) for the 3B spot in 2020. IMO Madrigal will most likely be our second basemen and T.A will stay at short. Moncada ? Not sure. With Madrigal coming up perhaps late 2019 or 2020, Moncada has time to prove second belongs to him, or not.

Benetti - a pseudo-intellectual baseball mind that is just amazed by himself.

Avi has developed into a .300 hitter with power. He keeps getting better but some people just keep doubting him. I wouldn't trade him unless the offer was overwhelming. It is hard to get All-Star level player at any position let alaone someone who hit .330 over an entire season.

This would be considered heresy by most Sox fans, and others could easily outright mock the idea (par for the course on anonymous sports forums) but I'll ask it anyway, not to throw a bomb but just to stimulate friendly (I hope) discussion: Would anyone consider trading Moncada at this point and under any scenario they might envision? Here is one idea but not sure it would be realistic or plausible: What if the Orioles would trade Machado to the White Sox right now for Moncada? The Sox turn around and attempt to sign Machado long term. If that fails, the Sox immediately make Machado available for trade for the 2018 play-off run to teams like the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox and get trade value back from them. That all assumes Moncada is what he has show thus far - .An average fielder who can make the occasional spectacular play but a terrible switch hitter.

Thanks Joe! I read that WGN is dropping baseball at the end of next year but since this going I am going to add an HD antenna in my attic to pick up WGN .

My way too early 2019 picks for starting players by position (with some R/L platoons): and of course, subject to multiple revisions over the next several months: SS Tim Anderson 2B Madrigal/Yolmer 3B Davidson/Moncada 1B Abreu LF Eloy CF Luis Robert RF Avisail Garcia C- Collins/Smith DH Palka/ Micker Adolpho

"the days of over-the-air free Chicago television sports will end in October 2019. " Over-the-air broadcasts are free to the viewer but the teams still make some money from advertising . Sports franchises also reap the benefit of gaining new fans who don't subscribe to cable. The Sox have a long and mostly unpleasant experience moving away from WGN so I brace myself for what this next move might mean.

OT a bit even on the catch-all: I only have HULU live for TV, no comcast cable. HULU has the games on csn/nbc sports. However I also want to watch our Sox when they are on WGN. My question is, does WGN broadcast Sox games over the air through digital UHF and if so, does anyone get that with an HD antenna ?

That's not what he said . He is commenting on his potential value. If Abreu is not going to bring back an elite level prospect, no reason to trade him. Then why would the Sox want to sign him.? Any Sox fan knows the answer to that.

I prefer games where attendance is low so I can mill around easier, get food and beer and go to the bathroom without waiting in long lines, then get out of the parking lot easily. The worst experience for me was the last time I went to a cubs/sox game which was the last time I will ever go to a cub game. What a pain in the arse. Man some of you guys need to take a chill pill and put your posts in a broader perspective. You have an opinion on a sports team or player....OK, big deal. If you cannot find some degree of friendship and camaraderie with fans of the same team you supposedly root for, you are missing out on some of the best things about being a sports fan. I high five fans sitting around me when someone on the Sox hits a home run. It is pretty much all smiles among Sox fans at GRate so I don't know why some fans get so mean, so dark and so strange when they get behind a keyboard.