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This year it would be crushing to not win it all. I'd eventually look back on the season with fond memories but it would be a huge disappointment if they don't win it all. And I'm sure the players and coaches would echo that.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2004 @ Mar 3, 2005 -> 11:46 PM) I remember he couldn't shoot a lick as a freshman. I love it when young guys turn a weakness into a strength. Luther's improvement with his jump shot is just as impressive. As a freshman he was good for the occasional dunk, but now he is a complete player. Weber might not be a good recruiter yet, but if this team is an example of players develop under him, Illinois will be just fine. Illinois' lowly recruit Charles Jackson vs. McDonald's AA Korvotney Barber Game 1 Jackson's team wins in a blowout Jackson 28pts. 18rbs. 8blks. 6asts. 4fouls Barber 15pts. 11rbs. 7blks. 3asts. 5fouls Game 2 Barber's team wins a very close game Jackson 27pts. 19rbs. 4blks. 7asts. 3fouls Barber 19pts. 12rbs. 6blks. 5asts. 3fouls Game 3 Barber's team wins in a blowout Jackson 23pts. 16rbs. 3blks. 9asts. 4fouls Barber 20pts. 15rbs. 7blks. 3asts. 3fouls State vs. Dublin (common opponent) Jackson 30pts. 22rbs. 6blks. 8asts. 3fouls Barber 21pts. 15rbs. 5blks. ?asts. 5fouls For the head to head meetings Jackson 26 PPG 17.66 RPG 5 BPG 7.3 APG Barber 18 PPG 12.66 RPG 6.66 BPG 3.66 APG

QUOTE(backman @ Mar 2, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) PITTSBURG! At least spell it right, it's Pittsburgh.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Feb 28, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) Well I was wrong about McCants. They still aren't sure what exactly is wrong with him. They are thinking it is Colitis now, but still aren't sure. Probably not going to play against FSU as it stands right now. This is starting to sound like a Jason Giambi type situation. I hope they figure this out pretty quickly.

QUOTE(Butter Parque @ Feb 26, 2005 -> 09:45 PM) Illinois Challenging Games Gonzaga W 89-72 Wake Forest W 91-73 Cincinnati W 67-45 at Wisconsin W 75-65 at Michigan State W 81-68 Wisconsin W 70-59 at Iowa W 75-65 Minnesota W 89-66 at Georgetown W 74-59 Total=9 Duke Challngeing Opponents Michigan State W 81-74 Oklahoma W 78-67 at NC State W 86-74 at Miami W 92-83 Maryland L 66-75 at Wake Forest L 89-92 North Carolina W 71-70 at Maryland L 92-99 Wake Forest W 102-92 at Georgia Tech W 60-56 at North Carolina TBD Total=11 You could even throw in home against Iowa if you'd like since you just barely beat them. I left out home against Georgia Tech, away against Virginia Tech which we lost, I guess you could even throw in home gainst Miami since they have a good chance to make the tournament. He was talking about during the non conference part of the schedule. Reading comprehension is key.

QUOTE(Butter Parque @ Feb 26, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) How can you say that the RPI takes a hit because Illinois has played bad Mid-Major Teams. What does that mean? Why doesn't Illinois think thy're good enough to beat a good mid-major? To have your RPI high, you have to play good teams, both from major conferences and mid-majors. You have to play teams like Davidson, Princeton, and Temple to keep your RPI up. You know that you have a good chance of winning those games, but if you don't show up, you could be going home with your tail between your legs. I think the most accurate examples of why the ACC is much better then the Big Ten shows up in November, when the Big ten/ACC Challenge takes place. Wake Forest 73 Illinois 91 Ohio State 73 Clemson 80 Virginia 48 Northwestern 44 North Carolina 70 Indiana 63 Michigan 68 Georgia Tech 99 Maryland 64 Wisconsin 69 Florida State 70 Minnesota 69 Michigan State 74 Duke 81 I rest my case Did you even look at my post and the example of Oklahoma St. who has the 3rd rank SOS vs. Illinois who has the 47th? They have the same amount of top 50 games, Illinois has one more 51-100 games, and they have the same amount of 101-200 games. The only difference is Illinois played a couple extra terrible cupcakes (mainly because of the Las Vegas Tourney) and their SOS is over 40 spots lower. And Princeton as a good team, LMFAO, their 4-6 in the powerhouse Ivy League. Temple was 4-6 in their non conference play. As for the ACC-Big 10 debate, the ACC is better but not by as much as you want to believe. The #1 ACC team struggled to beat a middle of the pack Big 10 team, Duke struggled in Cameron Indoor to beat MSU, a team that Illinois beat fairly easily on the road. And every game except for GT vs. Michigan and Illinois vs. Wake were decided by less than 10 pts.

QUOTE(Butter Parque @ Feb 26, 2005 -> 11:09 AM) If you actually believe that the Big Ten is even close to as good even with Michigan and Iowa, then you have completely lost your mind. First off, bot have run crooked programs to put themselves in the positions they are in. 2nd off, the Big Ten isn't even half the conference that the ACC is. If Georgia Tech, NC State, or Maryland was in the Big ten, I guarantee that they would have at least 20 wins by now. Like I said before, it's damn near impossible to win on the road in the ACC. This season in the ACC has been weird because good teams are just beating each other up and it's taken a toll on everyone's records. If these teams were separated from each other, it's obvious everyone's records would be much better. The fact is, is that Illinois' SOS is 48th. Is it fair to Duke to have to play a tough non-conference schedule and then play a brutal conference shedule? As for your 1st paragraph, I posted that res[ect thing a long time ago, this was regarding Duke getting the respect they always get over the years and Illinois wanting more respect. Duke deserves it for what they've done year after year. Illinois hasn't won anything. Georiga Tech just isn't a very good team this year period. They almost lost to UIC (and should have if the officials didn't rob UIC). They lost their only two real non conference games to Gonzaga and then to Kansas who was without Simien. Maryland outside of beating Duke hasn't done a damn thing all year. Their non conference schedule was a joke and their biggest win was against a very mediocre Memphis team and they lost to Wisconsin and George Washington. Plus they have lost to Clemson twice. NC St. just isn't good either. They got hammered by a bad St. Johns team, got hammered by a mediocre West Virginia team struggled big time at home against Purdue and their only decent wins all year are against Georgia Tech and Maryland. SOS is not a very good indicator of how difficult a schedule really is either. Look at Illinois and Ok. St. They have played the same amount of games vs. top 50 teams, Illinois is 7-0 Ok. St. 4-3. Illinois has played one more game against the 51100 ranked teams 8-0 vs. 7-0. They have also played the same amount of games vs. 101-200 ranked teams. However, because Illinois played terrible cupcakes 200+ their SOS falls to the 40s as opposed to Ok. St. who has the 3rd rank SOS. Not to mention, Illinois is 14-0 in road or neutral court games. They have twice as many wins in those games as Duke has. Duke's non conference schedule. Tenn-Martin W Davidson W NC Greensboro W Michigan St. W @ Valpo W Toledo W UIC W Oklahoma W Princeton W Temple W Illinois non conference schedule Delaware St. W Florida A&M W Oakland W Gonzaga (neutral court) W Wake Forest W @Arkansas (not Arkansas true home court admittedly) W Chicago St. W @Georgetown W Oregon (Chicago I'll count this as a home game) W Valpo W Missouri (neutral court) W Longwood (RPI killer) W Northwestern St. (neutral court) W Cincinnati (neutral court) W Anyone who thinks Duke really played a tougher non-conference scheudle based on that is an idiot.

QUOTE(Butter Parque @ Feb 24, 2005 -> 10:43 AM) I knew some jealous tarhole fan would bring this up. If you watched you saw Muhammad put his leg over Redick to try andd keep him down. Redick got offended and lost his temper. I thought it was a great call by the refs to just leave it as a double foul since both were at fault. Now I ask the tarhole fan, would you want JJ Redick on your team? Obviously you would. Redick didn't have a great shooting night, but he hit some big 3's and won the game for us with his 2 clutch free throws. He's better then anyone on UNC and everyone knows it. He showed that in their first game and he'll sbow it again on March 6th. It's great that people will still belittle this guy wh is gonna win the ACC Player of the Year. Some of these people need to get a life and start worrying about their own team. All I know is that Duke beat Georgia Tech on the road, and it's because of JJ Redick. Exhibit A as to why everyone hates Duke and their fans.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) Clinic. Back to back Big 10 Champions!!! Wait till next week to celebrate that when we send off Gene Keady by winnning our second consecutive outright Big 10 Championship.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 08:31 PM) WAR-REN CAR-TER clap clap clap clap clap WITH THE OOOOOOOOOOOOOOP More importantly, he is finally playing decent defense and if that continues he could be valuable come tourney time.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 12:55 PM) For Illinois fans, are you guys nervous at all about playing at Ohio State to end the season or are you comfortable that you will be undeafeated until the Big Ten tourney atleast? A little bit, but it can't be any tougher than playing at Kohl or Breslin. The only thing that makes me a little nervous is that this is basically Ohio State's national title game. This is their opportunity to make their mark, but realistically, if Illinois plays well they win.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Feb 21, 2005 -> 03:48 PM) he has the speed the NBA needs. One thing that would worry me is that Dee is probably one of the most emotional players i've ever seen and gets alot from the atmosphere around him......the NBA doesn't have that. Plus, dee will be THE MAN here next year, he won't have to be part of the 'trio of guards'. If he's smart he'll stay and get alot more attention next year. He has the speed and he does have the ability. I just don't think he is there yet, at least no where near a first round draft choice. His speed in the open court is amazing, but how many times have you seen him break a guy down off the dribble and finish in the half court or even get into the paint and create for someone else? The answer is not many. This is the one area Dee really needs to improve on and if he does, he'll be a very good NBA player for a long time.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Feb 21, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) i honestly think dee will stay no matter what. I do too, but only because as much as I love Dee as a college player I don't think he has anything close to an NBA game at this point in time. His shooting is there and he plays very good defense, but at his height he really needs to show that he can run a team and consistently get into the paint to create for others as well as occasionally finish inside in the half court.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Feb 12, 2005 -> 02:39 PM) i heard that too as i was leaving, did they ever explain why it was the highest attendance? i mean they've sold out the entire season, why was this any higher? Recruits in the building possibly? I know there was a bunch of football recruits there as well as some basketball recruits. I really have no idea though.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 12, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) I'll take it though, because Powell was not fouled. If this was the play that Powell was trying to do a put back, yes he was fouled, he had his legs cut out from under him and I think he should have been at the line.

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QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 10, 2005 -> 12:38 AM) Another issue though, is it just me, or was that clock a little quick at the end? I've only seen it about twice, but it looked like it should have been UNC ball with at least .06 left. I know they choked with a lot more than that, but who knows what kind of miracle could have happened. It looked like the refs were going to give the ball to Duke anyways so it really wouldn't have mattered.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 10, 2005 -> 12:06 AM) I don't follow much college basketball(as you may be able to tell by the next sentence), but Felton, or whoever it was, that took the ball up the court for that last UNC possession should never take it up the court in a close game like that again when the stakes are that high. Not only had UNC clawed back into it and cut it to a 1 point game, but I also noticed that with about 8 seconds left, there was some room to drive after he got Ewing to bite, and it looked like he went right back to Ewing. Poor last play of the game, whoever it was on, for UNC. You have to have more outs then that. It was spectacular defense by Duke, but to not even be able to get a shot up is horrible...simply horrible. Felton is actually one of the best PGs in America. Just happened to piss down his leg tonight. I'm sure UNC fans would feel very comfortable with the ball in his hands in almost all circumstances.

Stolen from an Iowa board but this is reportedly an account of Pierce's recent incident. Pierce decided to go to his girlfriends house in which an arguement occured, the police responded by going to the girls house and telling pierce to leave in which he did. Then later on that night pierce came back and walked in the house and threw her up against the couch he then went into the kitchen and grabbed a knife, the girl ran upstairs and locked herself in a room for 2 hours, thinking by that time Pierce had left she went back down stairs but Pierce was still in her living room, he then grabbed her and stripped her down and choked her and he said " is this how ur new boyfriend does it" and " is this how u like it now" later she managed to run out the door and get in her car but pierce caught up to her and grabbed the steering wheel but she put in reverse and got away, and she then went to a friends house , during this team pierce destroyed the 1st floor of her house and ransacked her room.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 9, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) Really, 17-23? I thought I heard on the telecast Nessler or Vittell (sp?) say that they were 10-20 or something like that... Meh, probably heard wrong. Duke was 10-23 from 3pt land.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 9, 2005 -> 10:37 PM) As an objective fan of a team who has no aspirations whatsoever (Northwestern :banghead ), I'll say this in regards to the UNC/Duke game: -Nelson played very, very well off the bench for Duke. -Ewing is garbage. He gets hot and buries a couple of tres, but other than that, he was terrible. He was terrible against Maryland, too. -Felton, what the hell was that at the end??? On a more positive note, I think UNC should absolutely dominate when the game is @ UNC (they do play at UNC, correct?). What was UNC from the line -- 10/24? And aren't they one of the best free throw shooting teams in the ACC? I think you can chalk up this win, in a huge part, due to the Cameron Crazies, but that's JMHO. They were 17-23 from the free throw line which is very solid.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Feb 9, 2005 -> 10:22 PM) Thank you motherf***ing Felton. 9 Yeah, he sure pissed down his leg on that last possession. Tough loss for your boys tonight.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 9, 2005 -> 10:15 PM) Well #8 Duke beats #2 UNC 71-70. Good game with an absolutely terrible final possession by UNC. I'm still trying to figure out why Felton picked up his dribble when he had a wide open jumper or could have penetrated.