Nardiwashere

Too far.

Is this on a free webcast or just mlbtv subscribers?

Machado is great and I disagree with everyone who acts like he isn't worth the deal he got... but I keep seeing these stats and I think they are a little misleading. On the radio, Bernstein was even listing guys with less WAR than Machado at age 26 and they were all-timers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but using WAR in this context is essentially like referencing a counting stat, no? So a guy who debuts super early like Machado and is good immediately will have a historically high WAR. A guy like Chipper Jones really didn't start playing in MLB until he was 23. So he'll have 3 years of WAR compared to 7 on these lists.

Padres made an offer... cool. This feels like it will end soon. Anyone who is saying they are on the verge of switching team allegiances and saying we should have bid against ourselves need to chill. Did you think no one was going to make an offer for machado besides Sox? Let it play out and quit being drama queens.

I was under the impression that the clock started and will run all this year. So do you mean the 50 days in AAA would essentially "reverse" the time he spent up in 2018 and he'll have about one full year of service time when he comes up?

Ok... I was thinking it meant he sat out a year before he signed his free agent contract with Boston or something...

I may be going crazy, but I'm 99% sure that didn't happen.

We know almost nothing about the negotiations and most of what has been reported is good news for Sox. The time to rip the front office isn’t now. Let’s see what happens. Another thing... if Machado is so eager to sign somewhere and it’s the Sox fault no deal has been made, why isn’t Machado a Phillie or Padre or Yankee etc.?

I don't understand what you are arguing is bullshit. It isn't some remote possibility that they will sign Machado and trade for Pederson. They are one of the teams in on Machado and have been linked to Pederson. Those two deals plus a deal for a pitcher is reasonable. An offseason like that would mean huge upgrade at 3B, upgrades at all OF positions, upgraded bullpen, and upgraded rotation. Add in some reasonable improvement from the young players, it wouldn't be a 62 win team. The division is bad. If they are above .500, they will have a chance. That isn't wishful thinking, its reality. I haven't heard anyone say the team is ready to win as is.

I disagree. If they add Machado, Pederson, and a decent SP, they have a shot in this division. It isn't any good.

I've never heard someone cite steamer and thought to myself, "Yeah, that makes sense"

Who do you include on this list?

I think they will acquire a guy via trade after signing Machado along with the Pederson trade.

I don't hate it for Reds.... Also, aren't younger infielders their biggest depth?

What would have been a comparable package for the Sox?

Add Machado, Pederson, another decent SP.... I don't think it is unreasonable to think that team can win 86 in a bad AL Central and flirt with a playoff berth.

This whole thing has gone from being exciting to boring to aggravating to fun. This process has been so White Sox. Nothing is ever not messy with them and I kind of love it.

He also keeps pushing "maybe the Cubs are secretly in on Harper" which is dumb. Was he trying to explain present value of money when he kept saying "there's this thing called market value?"

I like the prediction that it is the Stadium twitter account.

Oh my god, its a Pnoles tweet where he isn't whining about the backup catcher position.

That is how you judge teams. Fans are judged by the number of posts in game threads.

Lol

I have never realized how big of pussies Sox fans can be. Every neutral piece of information is met by people panicking and expecting the worst.

If Machado signs with another team and there ends up being reason to be mad at the Sox for how they handled it, I'll be mad.... But predicting that the fanbase will revolt because Scott Merkin and Levine and others are tweeting out leaks from the Sox is silly. The Sox should not care or adjust their strategy to make the nerds at SoxMachine and a couple hundred idiots like us on the internet happy.

The "Sox are pissing off fans by negotiating" takes are laughable.