Everything posted by FloydBannister1983
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Love the rebuild, despise this attitude
QUOTE (ron883 @ Feb 18, 2018 -> 03:21 PM) The Sox would be nuts to give yolmer the job over yoan. Yoan has one of the highest ceilings in the entire majors. He proved himself last season. The dude is the future of the sox. Don't see any issue with this. He hit .230 last season. He may have a bright future but it's a long stretch to say he proved himself.
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Mlb.com top prospects
QUOTE (zisk @ Feb 16, 2018 -> 07:17 AM) If anyone should be blamed, my choice would be Kenny Williams. I'll bet he was the one pushing that trade. Some times employees do things because the boss insists, not because they think it's a good idea. These guys have really got it made. They must laugh when they're together how easy it is. If something goes wrong it's obviously Kenny Williams and Hahn's hands are clean. If something goes right it's "Hahn's a genius and pulled a fast one." These guys have jobs for life as long as they continue the good cop-bad cop routine.
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2018 Hall of Fame ballots out today.
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 25, 2018 -> 03:09 PM) A lot of people can’t understand why Rolen is getting much less support than Vizquel...as Rolen was clearly the better overall player during peak years. Not disputing you and I'm sure you read much more than I do but this is literally the only post, article, or passing comment where I have heard that.
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Indians removing Chief Wahoo
QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Jan 29, 2018 -> 12:42 PM) "Gotta make sure I get a racist cap of one of my team's rivals to spite the PC libs ASAP!"--people in this thread If you don't like Indians hats don't buy one.
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Hall of Fame balloting...
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 9, 2018 -> 12:14 PM) So here is the latest numbers. I don't get why Andruw Jones is getting so little support. He put up some impressive counting stats, his peak was about a decade, and he was by far the best CF in the game at that peak and was a very good player in the post-season. 5%? What am I missing? I'd put him above all of the steroid guys and above everyone who is below 70% of support currently. Ryan ThibodauxVerified account @NotMrTibbs 1h1 hour ago With 176 ballots revealed/~41.5% of the vote known: Chipper - 98% Vlad - 94% Thome - 93% Edgar 80% Hoffman - 78% ----- Mussina - 73% Schilling - 67% BB/RC - 66% Walker -39% Vizquel - 29.5% Manny - 26% McGriff - 17% Rolen - 11% Andruw - 5.1% Tracker: http://bit.ly/hof18 Check out his Hall of Fame Statistics. He's not really close to your average Hall of Famer. I tend to agree with those numbers. I think he was a fine player but never really thought he screamed one of the all time greats. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesan01.shtml
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2018 better or another chase for the first overall pick?
QUOTE (wrathofhahn @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 10:09 PM) Take a look at the trades already made. Would you rather take a lesser package for Q and draft 1st or have Eloy and draft 4th? Why would these be mutually exclusive? Jimenez didn't even play in the majors last year so why couldn't they have made that trade and get the top pick?
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2018 better or another chase for the first overall pick?
QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 4, 2018 -> 07:23 PM) It looks like an interesting and hungry 74 win team! Examples of oxymorons: Deafening silence Jumbo shrimp Military intelligence Interesting 74 win teams
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The Anthem
QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Oct 10, 2016 -> 10:01 AM) Sigh, of course a conservative SCOTUS justice disapproves of the protests. Just awful. Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Clinton appointee, is a conservative SCOTUS justice? Was this meant to be sarcasm? I believe she's widely acknowledged to be one of the most liberal justices on the court.
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YOU MUST READ AND ACKNOWLEDGE THIS THREAD
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2018 Sox ZiPS projections
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 29, 2017 -> 10:47 PM) As long as you don't mind the 102-60 in 2020. Because my goal is to beat that, so I expect some people to be disappointed if that's all we do. I so wish there was a way I could take the under on that right now.
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Giancarlo Stanton traded to Yankees
QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 12:54 AM) I wonder when the national media is gonna realize that the Sox only have like 13 cents in payroll with arguably baseballs best young class. When they remember they exist and have even won a World Series in a convincing fashion in this millennium. Until then I would dampen my expectations.
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Orioles listening on Machado?...
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 09:22 PM) I know, why on Earth would Jon Lester accept a deal from a team that had averaged 92.5 losses the previous 2 years. It is not at all realistic to compare the White Sox to the other team. For whatever reason the other team is a desirable destination with a national fan base and gets media attention. The other team had also hired a real manager and the White Sox hired the clown they canned to make room for said manager. The White Sox finish in the bottom in terms of TV ratings even in a good year and the media routinely forget they exist and even won a World Series. Players aren't completely stupid. Heck, even people on this site argue they should be considered a small market team. Also doesn't help that the one time they signed a big free agent was just for a couple years and was only a shot across the bow at the other owners. The one superstar they have had here in the last thirty years completely alienated owners and management and fans (or vice verse depending on your point of view). I do concede there is a chance that something that has never happened before can defy all logic and happen in the future and can unexpectedly even have some success. If I were betting though I'd take SonofaRoache's position without hesitation. But I do admire your optimism.
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Eloy Jimenez is destroying the DWL
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 05:46 PM) s***, why haven't they released him yet? Apparently because he hasn't played yet.
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Eloy Jimenez is destroying the DWL
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 10:57 AM) Only because Kopech and Moncada aren't playing right now. Moncada played exactly one third of the season and batted .231.
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Jake Peavy?
QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 04:31 PM) Right. As of now, I think it's very possible they win 82-87 games. Those moves would obviously change things. I'll have two of whatever he's had.
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Our Next Manager?
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 1, 2017 -> 04:45 PM) Hi Duke/Alexei! ???
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Our Next Manager?
QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Nov 1, 2017 -> 04:00 PM) Jeff Torborg says "hello..." But I do see your point. Also Jim Fergosi (sic) had an uneventful cup of coffee with the White Sox after the guy they want to honor next year fired HOF manager Tony LaRussa (and forced LaRussa to turn HOF catcher into an outfielder).
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WS: Dodgers v Astros
QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 1, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) That "mess" was an enthralling historic amazing game. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, I suppose. It was a yawner to me. Guys hitting home runs off bad relievers never interested me.
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Our Next Manager?
QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Nov 1, 2017 -> 04:00 PM) Jeff Torborg says "hello..." But I do see your point. You are correct. Jeff Torborg managed two partial seasons for lowly Cleveland Indians (back when they were so bad they made a movie about them) ten years before he was hired by the White Sox.
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Our Next Manager?
QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Oct 31, 2017 -> 04:29 PM) I'll give you points for enthusiasm but winning the World Series is really, really hard. Much less the same manager winning it multiple times with the same team. It hasn't happened much. Especially for teams not named the Yankees. Bruce Bochy — San Francisco Giants: 2014, 2012 & 2010 Tony La Russa — St. Louis Cardinals: 2011 & 2006 Sparky Anderson — Cincinnati Reds: 1976 & 1975 Miller Huggins — New York Yankees: 1928, 1927 & 1923 John McGraw — New York Giants: 1922, 1921 & 1905 Joe Torre — New York Yankees: 2000, 1999, 1998 & 1996 Walter Alston — Los Angeles/Brooklyn Dodgers: 1965, 1963, 1959 & 1955-x x-Brooklyn Connie Mack — Philadelphia A's: 1930, 1929, 1913, 1911 & 1910 Casey Stengel — New York Yankees: 1958, 1956, 1953, 1952, 1951, 1950 & 1949 Joe McCarthy — New York Yankees: 1943, 1941, 1939, 1938, 1937, 1936 & 1933 Not sure if that's an all-inclusive list. Just what a quick google search gave me. Dick Williams and Tommy LaSorda did it with Oakland and the Dodgers respectively.
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Our Next Manager?
QUOTE (Latilleon @ Nov 1, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) Let’s say Renteria has a running in place season where young guys develop but his managing doesn’t seem to have a bright future blossoming into a truly competitive team. But Moncada, Anderson, and Rodon look like they will be All-Stars for a long time; Kopech and Jimenez are looking like stars, and Jerry is willing to pay whatever it takes to get a tier 1 free agent like Machado. The Sox hire a name manager. If the Sox have a run like they did from 1990-2008, you think the fan base can’t grow because of the Cubs? If the Sox got a quarter of the local market, that’s a piece bigger than Milwaukee, Kansas City, and Cincinnati. Does Anderson look like he will be an All-Star for a long time? He was third to last in WAR, fourth in strikeout percentage and led all shortstops in errors. At this point nagging injuries may turn Rodon into Kerry Wood. I'm not sure I'd count on him in the future. I think it's a bit too early to declare Moncada an All-Star for a long time when he hit .231 and had a rather pedestrian .750 OPS. Let's see one season above .300 and .850 before we declare him an All-Star in perpetuity. Outside of his first year and one two-year message of defiance to the rest of the owners Reinsdorf has never been able to attract a top free agent in either of the clubs he owns in the 37 years he has owned this team. I do know it is possible for things that have never happened before to suddenly reverse course and I hope your faith will be rewarded. I think the White Sox will have a hard time growing their fan base while in competition with the Cubs. I concede it is possible that they could change the entire culture of Chicago and rebuild the entire neighborhood and make the area hopping with bars and restaurants and make it the coolest area in the city. That would certainly grow their attraction of the casual fan. One quarter of the local market is not bigger than Milwaukee, Kansas City, and Cincinnati and I think one quarter is optimistic thinking but I don't want to dampen your optimism. In terms of households tuning in on television they are at under twenty percent . If you think the White Sox can capture one quarter of the local market then I certainly hope you are correct.
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WS: Dodgers v Astros
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 1, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) The three games at Dodgers stadium have been handed to the bullpens with 1-1, 1-1, and 1-0 scores in the 6th inning. I'm aware of that. I would take those games over a 13-12 mess any day of the year.
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Sox next local TV deal
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 1, 2017 -> 09:56 AM) This is in no small part due to the situation the White Sox management put themselves in - rosters that totally flopped in 2013, 2015, and 2016, and a roster that was rebuilding in 2014 and 2017, 5 straight seasons under .500 and 6 out of 7, at a time when the nearest competition was going to 3 straight postseasons and winning a title. That their ratings were bad now was the downside of their multiple "All-in" campaigns and Rick Hahn's brilliant leadership during that period. If they get somehow a crappy offer with a low yearly guarantee, they could "Star Wars" this thing and say that they'll take a lower guarantee but they would want a higher share of profits if things turned around in exchange. But I don't think that will happen, you could write the "2021 world series White Sox/Braves" script right now and believe it due to Rick Hahn's actual nonsarcastic brilliant moves last year. There are viewers coming and everyone knows that. Nobody can argue with "everyone knows that".
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WS: Dodgers v Astros
QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 09:08 AM) If the world series turns out like this every year from a juiced ball,don't stop juicing it. These games have been so fun. I would take Jack Morris vs. John Smoltz 0-0 going into the 10th inning any day of the year over a 13-12 mess of a game.
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Sox next local TV deal
QUOTE (Latilleon @ Nov 1, 2017 -> 06:20 AM) A low rated telecast in the third biggest market is can still be a larger audience than a high rated telecast in St. Louis, the 21st. And how have existing ratings lead to much bigger bumps for other teams? According to this article only San Diego, Florida, and Oakland had fewer households watching. https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/201...m/#5f28eb353799