FloydBannister1983

No they have a better chance of winning the 1983 World Series than that happening but it’s the smartest move they can make.

The thing for this team to do at this point is to go all in on Strasburg. Give him $40 million a year if you have to. He’s the one guy out there that would actually sell jerseys and sell tickets. If he gets hurt or goes downhill your fans can’t blame you for lack of trying. (I wouldn’t trust this bunch to trade prospects for established pitchers and I wouldn’t go after Kenny specials like the above three.)

Carlton Fisk. Greg Luzinski. Floyd Bannister. Tom Seaver.

I don’t disagree but it makes the comparison with Cubs, Astros , and Royals rebuilds apples and oranges.

Please stop this comparison. Cubs, Astros, and Royals all had new front offices. They went through multiple field managers. They didn’t let the people who drove the car into the ditch drive the tow truck as well.

Citation needed.

Er, there was this guy named Tony LaRussa that started his managing career here and managed here for 8 seasons before they had the great idea to make that drunken buffoon Harrelson the GM of the team. Among his better ideas were firing a Hall of Fame manager and attempting to turn a Hall of Fame catcher into a left fielder. (I thought Thibs and Skiles got more out of their teams than they had any business getting.)

The Bulls have actually hired some good coaches that they somehow ran out of town ... Phil Jackson, Scott Skiles, Tom Thibodeau. The White Sox ran a Hall of Fame manager out of town. The rest of their managers have been pretty shabby.

How many have the Yankees won since the turn of the century?

He has the highest xFIP over the last two years. Second from highest last year, highest this year.

If a mechanic has caused my car engine to seize I wouldn’t take the car back to the same mechanic. I’d find one of his competitors.

Exactly. Since we’re moving people to positions they haven’t played all year (thus leading to their success) let’s consider Frank Thomas a shortstop and Robin Ventura a second baseman.

That was a different expansion team in Washington in 1961 and moved to Texas in 1972. Not the same franchise.

Washington? The current Washington team was an expansion team, the Montreal Expos in 1969, that moved to Washington in 2005. This Washington team has not been in existence since 1901, as you correctly point out the team that was around in 1901 have become the Minnesota Twins and they have won multiple World Series in the late 80s and early 90s.

The Cubs also changed ownership.

Yes. This is, after all, the organization that just sent their announcer out to attack the fans. They haven’t a clue how to relate to fans.

This. The offer was a poison pill. They knew he would never sign that contact. They weren’t outsmarted. Poison pill all the way.

LOL - It’s not a game of horseshoes or hand grenades.

I think the point is that it’s not unprecedented. They’ve made far more big trades with the Cubs than they have, say the Mets or the Dodgers. Using a trade with the Cubs as indicative of a change in mindset is not evidence of anything. This started with someone saying the White Sox made a trade with the Cubs, ergo everything is different. Never happened before. Pay no attention to that offseason cluster f*** you saw last year.

Bell was an All Star the year before joining the White Sox and received MVP votes in his first year with the White Sox. It was a big trade at the time.

I’ve seen it explained at least two or three times in this thread already. Why are you crediting the closer, who pitches one inning, with 100% of the win in your formula. That’s just the beginning of your bad math.

Outside of Steele Walker, which one of those in the list make it quality? None of the hitters except Walker have an OPS above .700. Hamilton has an ERA above 9.

If this is true then I just found out the White Sox biggest problem ...

Are 32 and 24 year olds really that close that this should be a consideration? Also what guarantees Abreu would convince Moncada of anything? They just tried that this very offseason with Machado's family and friends and what did that get them? Moncada should not enter into anyone's thought processes when considering what to do with Abreu.

What two years did the Astros go to the World Series?