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2017-18 official NBA discussion thread

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Cleveland would be dumb to move that pick without Lebron's assurance that he's staying.

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Cleveland is sending Isaiah Thomas and Channing Frye to the Lakers for Clarkson and Nance, league source tells ESPN.

 

Pretty good move there I think. But boy, that Kyrie trade was such a dumb, dumb move by them.

Oof, they had to attach a 1st to that. Maybe not so good.

Does that make the Cavs better or worse on the court this season? (Honestly don't know)

Man Lebron has Gilbert wrapped around his finger.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 11:23 AM)
Does that make the Cavs better or worse on the court this season? (Honestly don't know)

 

They get younger and more athletic. But neither of those guys are going to be huge stars or anything.

 

Thomas has been terrible in the 15 games he's played. And it seems like he and Lebron don't get along. So I think this was to appease Lebron and also rid the Cavs of having to decide whether to pay Isiah a big contract next year.

 

Also, Windhorst said this trade now prevents them from trading the Nets pick until after the draft.

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Three impactful details on trade for Lakers: They'll have space for two max contract slots in 2018 or 2019, replenish first-round pick in 2018 Draft and gets Lakers some shooting for rest of season with Thomas and Frye.

 

Lebron's a Laker next year lol Thanks DG

Cavs get Rodney Hood and George Hill in three team trade.

 

Derrick Rose got traded to Utah lol

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Utah will also send Joe Johnson to Sacramento, and Cleveland will send Jae Crowder and Derek Rose to Utah, league sources tell ESPN. Sacramento sends George Hill to the Cavs.

 

Wow, Cavs doing some work.

Does Rose hang'em up now? The Cavs are doing what they had to do. You have to give them credit. It seems a lot of teams wanted Hood. They get Love back, who knows. Lebron still is the best player in the world IMO.

Ha, Wade getting traded back to Miami.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 12:07 PM)
Does Rose hang'em up now? The Cavs are doing what they had to do. You have to give them credit. It seems a lot of teams wanted Hood. They get Love back, who knows. Lebron still is the best player in the world IMO.

They got a ton back. They're favorites to win the east again, IMO.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 12:11 PM)
What is going on in Cleveland, this is madness!

It's the last hurrah. Might as well use most of their bullets. They are keeping the biggest one. Trading Kyrie was madness.

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QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 12:07 PM)
Ha, Wade getting traded back to Miami.

 

Now that's hilarious.

Why does Utah make that trade?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 12:14 PM)
Now that's hilarious.

I think it would be more hilarious if they traded him to Utah. He lives in Miami. Except for a shot at losing in the Finals, they did him a solid.

 

The Cavaliers’ coaching staff was planning a reduced role for Wade going forward and he had been campaigning for a return to Miami behind the scenes, according to Brian Windhorst of ESPN

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Three impactful details on trade for Lakers: They'll have space for two max contract slots in 2018 or 2019, replenish first-round pick in 2018 Draft and gets Lakers some shooting for rest of season with Thomas and Frye.

 

Lebron's a Laker next year lol Thanks DG

 

Kiss the Bulls good bye.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 10:49 AM)
As long as Reed never puts on a Bulls uniform, good. If the wife beater suits up, bad.

 

Yes glad he was gone.

What a coup by the Lakers. Fantastic move.

 

Edit: Note, didn't realize it was just the Cavs pick (and not the better pick). Crazy what the Cavs are doing.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 01:36 PM)
Yes glad he was gone.

 

Creating a TPE + pick swap came out well. Wasn't glad to have Reed near the roster.

I don't get, at all, the Utah Jazz portion of these trades. I thought maybe joe Johnson's contract was still bad. Nope, it's expiring. A team like the Jazz will get the most out of Crowder for sure...but what? What on earth?

 

I think this does show that rumor that the pelis would have dumped that first with asik for anyone was b.s. 1sts are not flying around at all, let alone ones that could be earlier than the 20s.

 

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The Timberwolves will try to sign Derrick Rose if he clears waivers after his looming release by Utah, according to league sources

Rose reportedly to be released and than signed by Minny (reunited with Thibbs, Buckets and Taj).

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 8, 2018 -> 10:49 AM)
I don't get, at all, the Utah Jazz portion of these trades. I thought maybe joe Johnson's contract was still bad. Nope, it's expiring. A team like the Jazz will get the most out of Crowder for sure...but what? What on earth?

 

I think this does show that rumor that the pelis would have dumped that first with asik for anyone was b.s. 1sts are not flying around at all, let alone ones that could be earlier than the 20s.

My belief is that MLB has an over infatuation with prospects and that the moneyball undervalue concept actually applies to prospects and that if you were going to follow money ball today, prospects are the new "walk/obp" concept. In basketball, 1st round picks have never been more overvalued than today (in this era of the tank). Delusions everywhere about the true value of a pick. Teams who are smart can buy so much talent without giving up that much in the process.

 

If the Sox were ready, in this current era of baseball, they are literally designed for the Ken Williams concept of leveraging prospets for proven talent and than using free agency to go bargain hunting on shorter term deals. Ken Williams would kill if this roster was ready (and I see the Sox taking this approach once the "roster" is ready for it). It's going to be fun.

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