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Sox send Frazier/DRob/Kahnle to NY ~ Rutherford/Clarkin/Clippard/Polo

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Why do people think the sox would start service time on players like kopech.

 

I doby even see the rush on Moncada, let him play aaa and then bring him up mid next year.

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I stand firmly by the position that losing on purpose is stupid. You want to win even if you're not actively trying to put good players on your MLB roster. The losing is a byproduct of the restocking of the system. You want fans to come out and see wins and you want your players to play well in tough situations whenever they present themselves.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 03:22 AM)
I really hope Clarkin isn't the next best guy after Rutherford.

 

Same would be a tad disappointing

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 09:22 PM)
I really hope Clarkin isn't the next best guy after Rutherford.

 

Same. That might be the only thing that disappoints me at this point.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 03:23 AM)
I stand firmly by the position that losing on purpose is stupid. You want to win even if you're not actively trying to put good players on your MLB roster. The losing is a byproduct of the restocking of the system. You want fans to come out and see wins and you want your players to play well in tough situations whenever they present themselves.

 

Well maybe have a better manager than Renteria

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 09:23 PM)
I stand firmly by the position that losing on purpose is stupid. You want to win even if you're not actively trying to put good players on your MLB roster. The losing is a byproduct of the restocking of the system. You want fans to come out and see wins and you want your players to play well in tough situations whenever they present themselves.

 

I need more than Rutherford and clarkin. Deal is missing one more quality piece.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 09:20 PM)
Let's have a bet on Frazier's BABIP with the Yankees the rest of the way. He's currently at .214, xBABIP says .284. Let's put the over/under at .240. You in?

 

I would bet under barring a huge shift in what he's doing at the plate. He is literally swinging for flyballs in an attempt to hit home runs, and hitting flyballs otherwise. His IFFB% is right around 17% over the past 3 seasons. His BABIP is s*** because it deserves to be s***.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 10:23 PM)
Same would be a tad disappointing

 

Agree. In my ideal (realistic) deal, Clarkin would have been the nice 3rd piece.

Prospect time

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Getting a blue chip player like Rutherford is a massive MASSIVE win for the Sox. Much better than a bunch of 10-20 guys

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 09:22 PM)
Why do people think the sox would start service time on players like kopech.

 

I doby even see the rush on Moncada, let him play as a then bring him up mid next year.

i think monaca will be bought after the tradline i think he more then ready

 

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 10:24 PM)
Well maybe have a better manager than Renteria

 

Have we decided he's bad now? I hadn't paid attention since the "anyone is better than Ventura" days

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:23 PM)
Same would be a tad disappointing

 

I was just thinking that. He seems like a 3rd or 4th piece.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 09:23 PM)
I stand firmly by the position that losing on purpose is stupid. You want to win even if you're not actively trying to put good players on your MLB roster. The losing is a byproduct of the restocking of the system. You want fans to come out and see wins and you want your players to play well in tough situations whenever they present themselves.

You would be wrong:

 

Evidence:

 

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If you want to be bad, be the worst. Fans will show up at the end of the rebuild or when studs start showing up.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:23 PM)
Same would be a tad disappointing

If Florial is included, I'll be pleased.

Damn, glad to see Inwas wrong and Rutherford is in the deal. I just hope Clarkin isn't the second biggest piece coming our way. Can't imagine Dave would react the way he did if he was.

 

Also, how crazy is it that Basabe was our #1 OF prospect two months ago and now we have three guys in the top 50. Hell, Basabe probably would be ranked #6 now if I had to guess.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 07:22 PM)
I'm probably the 3rd biggest BR fan on this site so I'm stoked.

Yep - I really wanted him in the draft and was pissed we passed him up. #Winning

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QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 19, 2017 -> 02:25 AM)
Have we decided he's bad now? I hadn't paid attention since the "anyone is better than Ventura" days

 

His use of the bunt reminds me of a high school softball coach

Love Rutherford, need to get 1 of 2 things to round the deal

 

Either 1 more quality piece

or

depth

 

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 08:24 PM)
I would bet under barring a huge shift in what he's doing at the plate. He is literally swinging for flyballs in an attempt to hit home runs, and hitting flyballs otherwise. His IFFB% is right around 17% over the past 3 seasons. His BABIP is s*** because it deserves to be s***.

Well then in Rick Hahn-speak, let's talk dollar bills yo

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 10:24 PM)
I need more than Rutherford and clarkin. Deal is missing one more quality piece.

 

If it's Florial then I'd be good. Not sure who else is a low level Yankees prospect that I'd get excited about. Maybe Abreu?

LOL

 

Hahn the master negotiator?

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 09:24 PM)
I need more than Rutherford and clarkin. Deal is missing one more quality piece.

 

Rutherford, Clarkin, Andujar, Florial would do it for me.

He's a better clubhouse mentor than Ventura for sure, and he knows how to coach young talent.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 18, 2017 -> 09:26 PM)
Damn, glad to see Inwas wrong and Rutherford is in the deal. I just hope Clarkin isn't the second biggest piece coming our way. Can't imagine Dave would react the way he did if he was.

 

Also, how crazy is it that Basabe was our #1 OF prospect two months ago and now we have three guys in the top 50. Hell, Basabe probably would be ranked #6 now if I had to guess.

 

2020 outfield of Jimenez, Robert, Rutherford = F*CK YES!

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