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2017-2018 MLB player movement rumors and reports

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He won't get that much but nothing wrong with starting at that point.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 8, 2017 -> 10:42 AM)
This takes me back to the guy who like 15 years ago had the crazy irrational hatred of Bartolo... and here he is STILL around MLB.

 

Mark FeinsandVerified account @Feinsand Bartolo Colon may be 44 years old, but he’s not done yet. According to a source, Colon plans to pitch again in 2018. 0 replies 1 retweet 4 likes

 

Bart has families to feed

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QUOTE (Tony @ Nov 9, 2017 -> 07:57 AM)
And all it takes is one team to go nuts. But it's hard to see a team shelling out that much for a 30 year old OF

 

And a bad OF at that in an era where defense is counted more than ever before.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2017 -> 10:30 AM)
And a bad OF at that in an era where defense is counted more than ever before.

Although you could also argue that OF defense is also less valuable than it's ever been before, as the league has been trending to fewer and fewer balls in play. I wonder if Boras is actually arguing this. That said, I think 6/180 would be the absolute highest anyone would go, and even that seems like a big stretch.

 

 

QUOTE (Tony @ Nov 9, 2017 -> 07:57 AM)
And all it takes is one team to go nuts. But it’s hard to see a team shelling out that much for a 30 year old OF

That's the thing. I highly, highly doubt he gets in that neighborhood but all it takes is one team to bid against themselves.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 9, 2017 -> 12:13 PM)
I don't think I'd trust Davis to last an entire 4 year contract

 

And with where contracts have gone, you might be looking at $70 to $80 million for him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 9, 2017 -> 01:20 PM)
And with where contracts have gone, you might be looking at $70 to $80 million for him.

That's the premium you pay for a guy who can pitch you through the world series next year if you have a good enough team around him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 9, 2017 -> 12:24 PM)
That's the premium you pay for a guy who can pitch you through the world series next year if you have a good enough team around him.

 

Is that Wade Davis though? When he pitched two innings this postseason, he needed multiple days to recover.

Carlos Beltran has retired. Yeah, I think he gets in.

 

 

QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 13, 2017 -> 12:13 PM)
Carlos Beltran has retired. Yeah, I think he gets in.

 

It might take him a while to get in. He has the postseason moments, but he's way more of a longevity guy than all-time great. One top 5 MVP finish, only two top 10 finishes. He was never close to the best player in the league at any point.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 13, 2017 -> 01:25 PM)
It might take him a while to get in. He has the postseason moments, but he's way more of a longevity guy than all-time great. One top 5 MVP finish, only two top 10 finishes. He was never close to the best player in the league at any point.

 

He was pretty damn close in 2006 (if he wasn't the best). He was easily better than Ryan Howard who won the MVP that year).

Beltran has a few things going for him- switch hitter, era he played (his average 162 games from age 22 to 36 was really good), and postseason success. I’m not saying he’s a no-brainer, but he’s over the line for me.

I think 20 years ago Beltran does not get in. He doesn't have any of the "Qualifying stats" like 500 home runs or whatever to get in. Closest thing he's got is top 50 all time RBI, but he's only 30 ahead of McGriff and McGriff didn't make it.

 

But...in the modern era, he's sitting at 67 career WAR and that's a hall of fame caliber number. I do think there will need to be some campaigning for him, but it'll be one of those that builds up into a yes vote over a few years of comments.

Ya, I think he's get in. Not first ballot cause ya know but I think he makes it eventually.

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