Reddy Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 12:08 AM) I read Moore's argument against the year book, and I actually think there is merit. Thats not to say this guy hasnt done bad things, I just think its possible that the year book is a forgery. Could you link it? If that were the case it would pretty much blow this whole thing wide open and also discredit every other accuser. Seems risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Reddy @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 08:25 AM) Could you link it? If that were the case it would pretty much blow this whole thing wide open and also discredit every other accuser. Seems risky. They are claiming someone found his assistant's signature for Moore on another document and copied it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 GMA had a handwriting expert on and said can conclude Moore wrote "most" of the yearbook message, maybe the whole thing. Discrepancy in the way the 7's are written holds off 100% certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I was under the impression handwriting experts were B.S. but I feel like the jinx used it a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Franken accused of sexually harassing a morning radio anchor. The photo out there is pretty awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I'm very upset by Franken. I believed in his intellect and his claim to carrying on Wellstone's work. What a betrayal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Reddy @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 08:25 AM) Could you link it? If that were the case it would pretty much blow this whole thing wide open and also discredit every other accuser. Seems risky. http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/roy...nate/index.html That is the story I read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) I'm very upset by Franken. I believed in his intellect and his claim to carrying on Wellstone's work. What a betrayal. Agree with this. Disappointing as hell. The pic I saw is disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Well there goes my idea of Al Franken for President. The photo doesn't appear like he is touching her but the thought is obviously wrong, and what he did earlier that evening was wrong. All these assholes need to be exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 He should resign. What a creep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 If this is going to be something more than just a blip, like after Anita Hill, they need to truly get pushed out and not just apologize. He should resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 10:42 AM) Well there goes my idea of Al Franken for President. The photo doesn't appear like he is touching her but the thought is obviously wrong, and what he did earlier that evening was wrong. All these assholes need to be exposed. Same on Franken 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 09:30 AM) Franken accused of sexually harassing a morning radio anchor. The photo out there is pretty awful. Its a weird story, she was upset about the kiss during a comedy routine that she agreed to, and then a picture where his hands are hovering over her chest while she is sleeping. Its very werid. But I agree with Hannity's next segment, any politician accused of sexual misconduct should be removed from office. Including the president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I don't want to hear another half ass apology. You should lose your job for this. Democratic Party should be heavy handed on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 09:48 AM) If this is going to be something more than just a blip, like after Anita Hill, they need to truly get pushed out and not just apologize. He should resign. I agree, the problem is, there are so many, and the potential to make it even more political will be immense. Either party can attack senators and congressmen and officials even higher up with lines of people making false claims. It will be the new move. Gloria Allred will be a billionaire. At least most of the claims coming out now, can be corroborated. Probably 95% of politicians will be accused. But it has to stop. I have posted a couple of times, the casting couch has long been known, and long been laughed about. How many times have you heard or read who did she have to blow to get that job? People with power cross the line all the time. Hopefully all these stories do something to make it stop. But I'm afraid it will be a blip. Edited November 16, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) The USO show is all online......One could say her and Robin Williams had strange interactions... Edited November 16, 2017 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 @FOX9 Statement from @SenFranken: “I certainly don’t remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way, but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann. As to the photo, it was clearly intended to be funny but wasn't. I shouldn't have done it.” The old "I don't remember it the same way". Probably because someone wasn't forcing their tongue down your throat. Pretty clear is going to try and get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 10:03 AM) The old "I don't remember it the same way". Probably because someone wasn't forcing their tongue down your throat. Pretty clear is going to try and get away with it. Unless some other people come out against him, he likely will get away with it. His defense might as well be "At least I didnt whip it out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 10:07 AM) Unless some other people come out against him, he likely will get away with it. His defense might as well be "At least I didnt whip it out." You'd assume since it was a large USO tour with many people that someone will be able to speak up on the accuracy of either of their stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) You'd assume since it was a large USO tour with many people that someone will be able to speak up on the accuracy of either of their stories. Well ultimately that is why Franken will get away with it. Franken will argue it was a comedic sketch and that they mutually agreed and it was all for laughs. The photo is stupid and definitely bad. I doubt that anyone in that helicopter was raising serious objections to a sexual prank like that. Its absolutely wrong and definitely could be sexual assault. But without other people coming forward, its hard to imagine that this will end his career. If he is smart he just keeps his head down, doesnt say s*** and lets the news cycle pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 @NateSilver538 23m23 minutes ago More If Al Franken were to resign—and Tweeden's accusations seem highly credible— Minnesota Gov. Dayton (D) would appoint an interim replacement. Then there'd be a special election as part of next's November midterms to fill out the remainder of Franken's term, which ends in 2020. So it wouldn't surprise me to see Schumer look to push Franken out, since Democrats will probably hold the seat anyway through 2020. Democrats have a pretty deep bench in Minnesota and would be favored to win that 2018 special election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 10:15 AM) Well ultimately that is why Franken will get away with it. Franken will argue it was a comedic sketch and that they mutually agreed and it was all for laughs. The photo is stupid and definitely bad. I doubt that anyone in that helicopter was raising serious objections to a sexual prank like that. Its absolutely wrong and definitely could be sexual assault. But without other people coming forward, its hard to imagine that this will end his career. If he is smart he just keeps his head down, doesnt say s*** and lets the news cycle pass. If its true it would be good for the dems to oust him as soon as possible. I think the story is going to take a little longer to debate though. You can watch Leann grind up on Robin Williams and other comedians during that tour, and its going to be used against her. All politicians who are accused of this type of conduct should resign if its legit, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Ewwww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Can the minority lead expulsion of a Senator? I'm sure the Majority can, but who has to bring it to the floor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Nov 16, 2017 -> 09:52 AM) I don't want to hear another half ass apology. You should lose your job for this. Democratic Party should be heavy handed on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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