22 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I know there aren't many really good all around catchers, and I know the Sox have been bitten by the injury bug and suspension, but it's hard to believe but true, they have someone even worse both offensively and defensively than Omar Narvaez on the roster

2 catchers in the history of baseball who cant actually catch. White Sox manager to find them both

Palka lol Lopez changeup was enough for the Indians this inning.

1 minute ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

2 catchers in the history of baseball who cant actually catch. White Sox manager to find them both

They used to employ another one, Josh Phegley. Occupation catcher. Difficulties..catching pitches

I can't believe we can't find some guy who can't hit but can actually play the OF to just step in. I mean I'm all for giving guys a chance to stick in a season like this, but do we really think Palka is someone who needs to be seen? How many bad first baseman are we going to stick in the OF corners this year? It's getting absurd.

Boys this game is Ovah 

The sooner someone hides anything Daniel Palka would use to field a position, the better.

MAKE IT STOP

42 minutes ago, Bazox said:

What does that tick-tack signalling that Ricky does mean ?

He is relaying either the pitch he wants thrown, location he wants the pitch to go, or both. When the Sox are hitting, he’s relaying if he wants the Sox to bunt, take a pitch, steal a base, etc. He relays that to the catcher (when pitching) or third base coach (when hitting).

1 minute ago, elrockinMT said:

Boys this game is Ovah 

Just wait. Jason will be mentioning the Indians bullpen ERA soon. 

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

The sooner someone hides anything Daniel Palka would use to field a position, the better.

It wouldn't make him worse.

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

The sooner someone hides anything Daniel Palka would use to field a position, the better.

Not sure I’ve ever seen a worse outfielder for the Sox, defensively. Either put him at DH or stick his ass on waivers.

Lopez's ERA up to 3.80.

Brutal freaking series. Not much positive going on in terms of the rebuild.

2 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

He is relaying either the pitch he wants thrown, location he wants the pitch to go,

Pretty optimistic of him .

Just now, fathom said:

Brutal freaking series. Not much positive going on in terms of the rebuild.

Look at their record, and look at their schedule. They have played mostly crap teams. I thought for sure they were head and shoulders better than KC and Detroit. They probably will finish ahead of KC, but I think they may be in the top 3 of worst White Sox teams I have ever seen. 

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

Look at their record, and look at their schedule. They have played mostly crap teams. I thought for sure they were head and shoulders better than KC and Detroit. They probably will finish ahead of KC, but I think they may be in the top 3 of worst White Sox teams I have ever seen. 

Problem is the starting pitching has been pretty brutal in terms of finding future contributors. I still don't trust Lopez at all.

5 minutes ago, Bazox said:

Pretty optimistic of him .

Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but in the major leagues, these managers, catchers and pitchers watch a ton of tape which show tendencies, weaknesses & strengths. Typically teams have a binder in the dugout which show these things which in turn is what the manager relays.

Of course when you have a staff like this, it doesn’t matter.

Just now, soxfan49 said:

Don’t know if you’re being sarcastic

Yep ?

Lopez' peripherals haven't been strong; probably a matter of time.
That's 3 of the top pitching prospects....so far, no for sure keepers.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Problem is the starting pitching has been pretty brutal in terms of finding future contributors. I still don't trust Lopez at all.

Lopez is been at least as good as anyone could expect. People were living a dream thinking Fulmer was the guy he was in September, look at him the rest of the year in the minors. They also were crazy to think Giolito was the guy he looked like when he was called up. He was pretty brutal in AAA.  His advanced numbers weren't very good. I think it's fair to have expected them both to be a bit better, there really hasn't been evidence when you look at their overall body of work, that either is more than a 5th starter, if they are even that. It would have been nice to have been proven wrong, but it was easy to see. You just have to hope the flashes of dominance Lopez has shown can catapult him to that level. That Rodon comes back and is what we all expected him to be. That Kopech learns to pitch, and some of the others come through. Some have been calling the Sox prospects waves. The Fulmer, Giolito wave wasn't even a wave without Lopez. 

Just now, GreenSox said:

Lopez' peripherals haven't been strong; probably a matter of time.
That's 3 of the top pitching prospects....so far, no for sure keepers.

Lopez looks solid and can be at least a number 5. Hopefully Giolito can at least give us a four, leaving our 2 and 3 as Kopech and Rodon.

Only 16 more games left with CLE in their last 111.

They really needed that win in Game 1 to believe they could actually beat them.  Rodon, IMO, might be the only one capable of pulling it off...have a feeling they would destroy Kopech if he was getting behind in counts ad trying to overpower them.

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Lopez is been at least as good as anyone could expect. People were living a dream thinking Fulmer was the guy he was in September, look at him the rest of the year in the minors. They also were crazy to think Giolito was the guy he looked like when he was called up. He was pretty brutal in AAA.  His advanced numbers weren't very good. I think it's fair to have expected them both to be a bit better, there really hasn't been evidence when you look at their overall body of work, that either is more than a 5th starter, if they are even that. It would have been nice to have been proven wrong, but it was easy to see. You just have to hope the flashes of dominance Lopez has shown can catapult him to that level. That Rodon comes back and is what we all expected him to be. That Kopech learns to pitch, and some of the others come through. Some have been calling the Sox prospects waves. The Fulmer, Giolito wave wasn't even a wave without Lopez. 

Yeah I gave up on Fulmer being a TOR guy a long time ago. I'm hoping he can be a bullpen specialist at the least.

this is ugly lol

I know I have to take a step back quite often as I hate to lose but it’s all about gaining experience for these young players. Failure hopefully leads us to experience and better outings