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6/6- White Sox at Twins, 7:10

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Smith back there instead of Navaraez makes this team instantly better. 

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Escobar just giving us fits

7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Whether Sox win or lose this game might depend on what Rosario and Escobar ( the new Piranhas) do this inning.

You can't be a Piranha and have over a 900 OPS and over 10 homers, lol...

Just now, caulfield12 said:

You can't be a Piranha and have over a 900 OPS and over 10 homers, lol...

They can be if they just chew you up and spit you out.

2 minutes ago, Richie said:

Smith back there instead of Navaraez makes this team instantly better. 

The funny thing is that Smith was much better offensively, but the overall fWAR numbers were way to the advantage of Omar last year, I think he ended up around 1.5 or so?

Just now, Richie said:

Smith back there instead of Navaraez makes this team instantly better. 

 

He has had a great game tonight, blocked a ton of balls, a couple hits, framing good. Keep him in there. 

Just now, caulfield12 said:

The funny thing is that Smith was much better offensively, but the overall fWAR numbers were way to the advantage of Omar last year, I think he ended up around 1.5 or so?

Just goes to show you how much walks are (over)valued ?

All in on the Smith is good ? 

Davidson obliterated that.

You hear that sweet sound it made? Like a movie. lol

LOL @ Twins. This game is has been fun for about 3 innings now.

9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

The funny thing is that Smith was much better offensively, but the overall fWAR numbers were way to the advantage of Omar last year, I think he ended up around 1.5 or so?

Surprisingly that advantage was driven by Omar’s defense in fangraphs 

That was the bad Timmy there

9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

The funny thing is that Smith was much better offensively, but the overall fWAR numbers were way to the advantage of Omar last year, I think he ended up around 1.5 or so?

Well... they had nearly identical PA's (295 vs 294)

Navarez .277/.373/.340 (.713 OPS) 38 BB's 45 K's (2 HR 15 RBI)

Smith .283/.309/.388 (.697 OPS) 9 BB's 46 K's (4 HR 30 RBI)

 I can understand where Navarez may have technically been better. However, (this is speculative ) I do believe Navarez had a pretty lucky BABIP situation going on. Maybe I am remembering that incorrectly.

6 minutes ago, bmags said:

Surprisingly that advantage was driven by Omar’s defense in fangraphs 

I feel like there's no accurate way to track catcher defense. 

Omar is brutal at pitch framing (don't see how they account for that in fWAR) and catcher's get such generous rulings when it comes to passed balls vs wild pitches. Most of the time, they get any ruling where the ball goes into the dirt. Which just isn't how it should be. You should be accountable for blocking the baseball. Certainly not every time, but much more than they're held to it. 

 

2 minutes ago, Richie said:

I feel like there's no accurate way to track catcher defense. 

Omar is brutal at pitch framing (don't see how they account for that in fWAR) and catcher's get such generous rulings when it comes to passed balls vs wild pitches. Most of the time, they get any ruling where the ball goes into the dirt. Which just isn't how it should be. You should be accountable for blocking the baseball. Certainly not every time, but much more than they're held to it. 

 

I haven’t looked into how FG does catcher defense. Seems off. Would take Soto/Castillo/Smith etc over narvy easy

OK Nate one more and might not have to face Rosario and Escobar in the 9th

Just now, bmags said:

I haven’t looked into how FG does catcher defense. Seems off. Would take Soto/Castillo/Smith etc over narvy easy

Many here favored keeping Narvaez over Smith in the spring I would imagine because of his OBP . Can't be sure if he looked that bad catching last year but he does have a whole different group of pitcher to handle. Could be guys like Robertson and Kahnle and Swazak were just easily to catch and were much more consistent with their command.

OH no; Sox gotta face Sale. Please no no hitter.

2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Many here favored keeping Narvaez over Smith in the spring I would imagine because of his OBP . Can't be sure if he looked that bad catching last year but he does have a whole different group of pitcher to handle. Could be guys like Robertson and Kahnle and Swazak were just easily to catch and were much more consistent with their command.

No, it’s cause he bats left handed, and Castillo bats right handed.

1 minute ago, greg775 said:

OH no; Sox gotta face Sale. Please no no hitter.

In 5 innings pitched against the Chicago White Sox in his career, Chris Sale allowed 6 runs on 10 hits.

To be honest I find Narvaez and Smith fairly interchangeable, they aren’t very good but I’ll take Smith more this year.

Just now, bmags said:

No, it’s cause he bats left handed, and Castillo bats right handed.

I've obliterated Castillo from my mind, Yes you are correct .

 

5 minutes ago, greg775 said:

OH no; Sox gotta face Sale. Please no no hitter.

No, Boston has to face Covey.

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