Richie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Smith back there instead of Navaraez makes this team instantly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Escobar just giving us fits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Whether Sox win or lose this game might depend on what Rosario and Escobar ( the new Piranhas) do this inning. You can't be a Piranha and have over a 900 OPS and over 10 homers, lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, caulfield12 said: You can't be a Piranha and have over a 900 OPS and over 10 homers, lol... They can be if they just chew you up and spit you out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Richie said: Smith back there instead of Navaraez makes this team instantly better. The funny thing is that Smith was much better offensively, but the overall fWAR numbers were way to the advantage of Omar last year, I think he ended up around 1.5 or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Yees ! Good job Jace ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, Richie said: Smith back there instead of Navaraez makes this team instantly better. He has had a great game tonight, blocked a ton of balls, a couple hits, framing good. Keep him in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, caulfield12 said: The funny thing is that Smith was much better offensively, but the overall fWAR numbers were way to the advantage of Omar last year, I think he ended up around 1.5 or so? Just goes to show you how much walks are (over)valued ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 All in on the Smith is good 🚊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Davidson obliterated that. You hear that sweet sound it made? Like a movie. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 LOL @ Twins. This game is has been fun for about 3 innings now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The funny thing is that Smith was much better offensively, but the overall fWAR numbers were way to the advantage of Omar last year, I think he ended up around 1.5 or so? Surprisingly that advantage was driven by Omar’s defense in fangraphs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 That was the bad Timmy there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The funny thing is that Smith was much better offensively, but the overall fWAR numbers were way to the advantage of Omar last year, I think he ended up around 1.5 or so? Well... they had nearly identical PA's (295 vs 294) Navarez .277/.373/.340 (.713 OPS) 38 BB's 45 K's (2 HR 15 RBI) Smith .283/.309/.388 (.697 OPS) 9 BB's 46 K's (4 HR 30 RBI) I can understand where Navarez may have technically been better. However, (this is speculative ) I do believe Navarez had a pretty lucky BABIP situation going on. Maybe I am remembering that incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, bmags said: Surprisingly that advantage was driven by Omar’s defense in fangraphs I feel like there's no accurate way to track catcher defense. Omar is brutal at pitch framing (don't see how they account for that in fWAR) and catcher's get such generous rulings when it comes to passed balls vs wild pitches. Most of the time, they get any ruling where the ball goes into the dirt. Which just isn't how it should be. You should be accountable for blocking the baseball. Certainly not every time, but much more than they're held to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Richie said: I feel like there's no accurate way to track catcher defense. Omar is brutal at pitch framing (don't see how they account for that in fWAR) and catcher's get such generous rulings when it comes to passed balls vs wild pitches. Most of the time, they get any ruling where the ball goes into the dirt. Which just isn't how it should be. You should be accountable for blocking the baseball. Certainly not every time, but much more than they're held to it. I haven’t looked into how FG does catcher defense. Seems off. Would take Soto/Castillo/Smith etc over narvy easy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 OK Nate one more and might not have to face Rosario and Escobar in the 9th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 That a boy Nate . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, bmags said: I haven’t looked into how FG does catcher defense. Seems off. Would take Soto/Castillo/Smith etc over narvy easy Many here favored keeping Narvaez over Smith in the spring I would imagine because of his OBP . Can't be sure if he looked that bad catching last year but he does have a whole different group of pitcher to handle. Could be guys like Robertson and Kahnle and Swazak were just easily to catch and were much more consistent with their command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 OH no; Sox gotta face Sale. Please no no hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Many here favored keeping Narvaez over Smith in the spring I would imagine because of his OBP . Can't be sure if he looked that bad catching last year but he does have a whole different group of pitcher to handle. Could be guys like Robertson and Kahnle and Swazak were just easily to catch and were much more consistent with their command. No, it’s cause he bats left handed, and Castillo bats right handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, greg775 said: OH no; Sox gotta face Sale. Please no no hitter. In 5 innings pitched against the Chicago White Sox in his career, Chris Sale allowed 6 runs on 10 hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 To be honest I find Narvaez and Smith fairly interchangeable, they aren’t very good but I’ll take Smith more this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Just now, bmags said: No, it’s cause he bats left handed, and Castillo bats right handed. I've obliterated Castillo from my mind, Yes you are correct . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, greg775 said: OH no; Sox gotta face Sale. Please no no hitter. No, Boston has to face Covey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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