3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

If someone claims Shields, I don't think the conversation with Rick will be very long...

Hahn: "Hey Jerry, let me get that Kyle Lewis kid for Shields, or we'll just pull him back."

DiPoto: "How about no."

Hahn: "Ok, how about Cesar Izturis Jr?  Maybe that will make some of my fans on Soxtalk a little less pissed about Tatis Jr."

DiPito: "Nah.  How about nothing".

Hahn: "Deal!" 

that's pretty much exactly what would happen, well done!

13 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Thought he was only owed ~$3.5M from here on out?

The Sox owe him that amount.  SD owes the rest, though technically that money is going to the White Sox and would NOT go with on a straight waiver claim.

5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

If someone claims Shields, I don't think the conversation with Rick will be very long...

Hahn: "Hey Jerry, let me get that Kyle Lewis kid for Shields, or we'll just pull him back."

DiPoto: "How about no."

Hahn: "Ok, how about Cesar Izturis Jr?  Maybe that will make some of my fans on Soxtalk a little less pissed about Tatis Jr."

DiPito: "Nah.  How about nothing".

Hahn: "Deal!" 

Hahn would still win that deal.

This clearly makes our farm system #1 in the league.

17 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I'm shocked that Cedeno and Avilan are still here. 

Me too.

1 hour ago, fathom said:

sleepy, is this the biggest trade you've broken on here?  

It may very well be lol

FutureSox report on Schryver, with some scouting info and other stuff.

 

10 minutes ago, NorthSideSox72 said:

FutureSox report on Schryver, with some scouting info and other stuff.

 

I remember him from college as a starter and was going to ask whether he could start - thanks for addressing that in the write-up.

Edited July 31, 20187 yr by GreenSox

Fangraphs rated this guy the worst of all prospects moved at the deadline.

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Fangraphs rated this guy the worst of all prospects moved at the deadline.

I mean, maybe they are right, as he was traded for basically nothing, but people put way to much credence into their opinions.  

2 minutes ago, turnin' two said:

I mean, maybe they are right, as he was traded for basically nothing, but people put way to much credence into their opinions.  

Oh I agree, just thought it was funny he was the exact last of 65.  A little more concerning is Frare coming in at 65, but I’m not sure how much stock to put in their assessments on fringier prospects.

23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Fangraphs rated this guy the worst of all prospects moved at the deadline.

The same Fangraphs that didn't consider Dylan Cease a top 130 prospect as of a month ago (yes I know they've since changed it)?

 

I don't know what happened but it seems like they've gotten really lazy this year. 

Anytime you are using a more statistical method to evaluate something that isn't yet a known factor,  you aren't going to get good results. 

Minor league relievers aren't a blob on the radar for a fangraphs type evaluation.  This doesn't surprise me at all that FG doesn't value the deal.

I would say that Medeiros at 40 is a bigger concern, to the extent one is concerned with fangraphs.
But fangraphs see him as a LOGGY and if they are right, then, yes, that would bad value.
But the Sox think  he can start.   That's sufficient upside.

15 hours ago, ptatc said:

Me too.

August probably...

9 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Anytime you are using a more statistical method to evaluate something that isn't yet a known factor,  you aren't going to get good results. 

Minor league relievers aren't a blob on the radar for a fangraphs type evaluation.  This doesn't surprise me at all that FG doesn't value the deal.

They also purposefully downgraded all future grades for pitchers this year based off of the historical underperformance of them. When they are already downgrading pitchers, it's not a shock that 24 year old low minors relievers aren't on their hot commodity list.

19 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

I'm shocked that Cedeno and Avilan are still here. 

I'm not stunned. Top flight relievers are worth way more when they have a proven track record. Hahn will let next season unfold for a bit to see how the team is shaping up and A) if the team is still bad, he'll flip our good, track record having, relievers for (presumably better) prospects or B) if the team seems to be turning around, keep them in the fold for the next playoff push. 

Edited August 1, 20187 yr by oneofthemikes