In an ideal world Jose would just stay at DH because defensively Yonder is superior. Nelson Cruz would have been interesting on that 1 year deal.  In 26 innings in the outfield he was actually +1 in DRS which is curious. I'm sure that wouldn't have remained there but interesting to mention. 

4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

But the only things we have heard about since the winter meetings is Ottavino and Machado's visit which is why I think it's one or the other. Still would be fun if it was something we haven't heard anything about. Unexpected surprises are the best.

Expected surprises are rare but I get what you mean. Any deal would be of interest.

Does anyone else want the Sox to stay away from Kikuchi? I don't know a whole lot about him, but it seems as if he's had his fair share of injury concerns. And his Japanese Leage stats aren't even close to being as good as Masahiro Tanaka or even Kenta Maeda. Just seems like a risky move to me.

Edited December 27, 20187 yr by Whitesox27

8 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

Does anyone else want the Sox to stay away from Kikuchi? I don't know a whole lot about him, but it seems as if he's had his fair share of injury concerns. And his Japanese Leage stats aren't even close to being as good as Masahiro Tanaka or even Kenta Maeda. Just seems like a risky move to me.

If he signs for a similar amount as Maeda, I'd absolutely take a chance on him.

55 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

Does anyone else want the Sox to stay away from Kikuchi? I don't know a whole lot about him, but it seems as if he's had his fair share of injury concerns. And his Japanese Leage stats aren't even close to being as good as Masahiro Tanaka or even Kenta Maeda. Just seems like a risky move to me.

Which numbers do we look at to translate the best from league to league? His K/9 and K/BB and Hits/9 ratios are at least comparable to Maeda, his numbers aren't as dominant as Tanaka but Tanaka's numbers in the US are always going to be affected by his elbow going out year 1, and I don't know if there's anything else behind it but Kikuchi's innings totals aren't nearly as ridiculous as Tanaka or Maeda. 186 innings as an 18 years old for Tanaka, 193 as a 21 year old for Maeda, 187 as a 26 year old for Kikuchi. 

1 hour ago, Whitesox27 said:

Does anyone else want the Sox to stay away from Kikuchi? I don't know a whole lot about him, but it seems as if he's had his fair share of injury concerns. And his Japanese Leage stats aren't even close to being as good as Masahiro Tanaka or even Kenta Maeda. Just seems like a risky move to me.

Salary should be reasonable. I don't see much downside risk and the Sox are in a position to make these kind of moves.
I hope they sign him.

1 hour ago, pcq said:

Expected surprises are rare but I get what you mean. Any deal would be of interest.

Ha  when a rumor actually comes true orit's a player who we could figure it out that's what I call an expected surprise .A trade or signing out of the blue with no rumor attached I call an unexpected surprise.

3 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Salary should be reasonable. I don't see much downside risk and the Sox are in a position to make these kind of moves.
I hope they sign him.

Yeah I guess I wouldn't mind it if his contract was similar to what Maeda got. We'll see.

Yankees are still looking to trade Sonny Gray.

5 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Yankees are still looking to trade Sonny Gray.

I'm surprised sox haven't been linked tho I think the Yankees are wanting a higher end spect

Just now, aeichhor said:

I'm surprised sox haven't been linked tho I think the Yankees are wanting a higher end spect

Their asking price has been way too high. Only the Brewers are supposedly talking to them. Offer Palka and Jordan Stephens . If they do trade Gray I'd be shocked if they get a high end prospect. Only 1 year before he becomes a FA and had a bad year,

14 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Their asking price has been way too high. Only the Brewers are supposedly talking to them. Offer Palka and Jordan Stephens . If they do trade Gray I'd be shocked if they get a high end prospect. Only 1 year before he becomes a FA and had a bad year,

I wouldn't want to give that up for Gray.

9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I wouldn't want to give that up for Gray.

Me neither  . I was editing my post to say I already thought it was too much for him but realized  I was in the wrong post.

Did I miss something? Watching MLB Network and Morosi says the White Sox are one of the teams  interested in Encarnacion??? Anyone else see this??

2 minutes ago, Saufley said:

Did I miss something? Watching MLB Network and Morosi says the White Sox are one of the teams  interested in Encarnacion??? Anyone else see this??

I just posted about this in another thread. You heard correctly Morosi said exactly that, can he still play some 3rd base or is he strictly a 1B/DH now a days

Edited December 28, 20187 yr by beckham15

Just now, beckham15 said:

I just posted about this in another thread. You heard correctly Morosi said exactly that

Would mean either Abreu is getting dealt or Alonso (if Sox miss on Manny)

Just now, beckham15 said:

I just posted about this in another thread. You heard correctly Morosi said exactly that

I was just going to reply to yours in the other thread.  What's up?

Just now, beckham15 said:

I just posted about this in another thread. You heard correctly Morosi said exactly that

He said it last night too, I mentioned in one of these damn threads.  I wonder if they're doing that in preparation of finding an Abreu trade? 

Just now, fathom said:

Would mean either Abreu is getting dealt or Alonso (if Sox miss on Manny)

That would be something if Alonso got dealt not have putting the uniform on.  Has that ever happened?

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Would mean either Abreu is getting dealt or Alonso (if Sox miss on Manny)

Can he play 3rd anymore or just strictly a DH/1B

Just now, justBLAZE said:

That would be something if Alonso got dealt not have putting the uniform on.  Has that ever happened?

Not sure but it would make sense they’d look to deal him if they miss on Manny

Just now, beckham15 said:

Can he play 3rd anymore or just strictly a DH/1B

Could he ever play 3B?

2 minutes ago, justBLAZE said:

That would be something if Alonso got dealt not have putting the uniform on.  Has that ever happened?

That would be the case with encarnacion if it happened, he got dealt to Seattle just recently this offseason right?

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Could he ever play 3B?

Just trying to figure out where he would fit at right now at this point ?

1 minute ago, beckham15 said:

That would be the case with encarnacion if it happened, he got dealt to Seattle just recently this offseason right?

Yep