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Machado signs with Padres 10/300

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2 minutes ago, NotHahn said:

If you sign Harper theres a chance that Bryant will follow in 2020 to fill 3rd base. 

If you give one player $35mm it only lessens the chances that you can or will be able to afford another like player, regardless of their friendship.  

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Just now, KnightsOnMintSt said:

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Nightengale and all these local guys are really adamant about this. Kind of crazy to me. 

I'm a genuinely negative person when it comes to sports, but I just feel like he's not gonna be a Sox player. Its just gonna drag on forever and someone is gonna swoop in and offer more. 

Just now, Orlando said:

Nightengale and all these local guys are really adamant about this. Kind of crazy to me. 

Because the team is telling them to. I would take Passan over Bruce, Bob and Daryl any day.

Seems like the Sox are very upset that the 8 year info leaked. Even if it wasn’t true, why would they be so adamant to suppress it? In my opinion it makes them look so much better if people believe they actually have a respectable offer on the table.

Just now, Orlando said:

Nightengale and all these local guys are really adamant about this. Kind of crazy to me. 

White sox are putting that info out there for sure. Now are the sox telling the truth or lying?

30 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:

Manny just IG'd a cup of coffee.  WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?!?

He's caffeinating up so he is awake when then this gets finished tonight. 

Just now, Sockin said:

Because the team is telling them to. I would take Passan over Bruce, Bob and Daryl any day.

Yep as it seems Passan got info from the agent or Phillies, whereas these three got it from the Sox side. 

These scenarios where Manny is accepting short term deals all of a sudden don't make sense.  Why not take the best longer deal with an opt out?

3 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said:

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This process is so incredibly dumb

Just now, whitesoxwinner said:

White sox are putting that info out there for sure. Now are the sox telling the truth or lying?

What would be the point in being honest about your offer?

Just now, Sockin said:

Because the team is telling them to. I would take Passan over Bruce, Bob and Daryl any day.

Lazano is for sure feeding passan that info though..we dont know if the sox or lazano is telling the truth

Yeah this is a battle of the White Sox vs. Manny's agent right now. He's trying to shop the updated offer around and we're not letting him. Unfortunately it's probably too late and the Phillies or whoever already assume there's an updated offer so they're deciding if they're going to update theirs.

I worry both that someone is going to come along and sweep him up while we dick around with a competitive but not amazing offer, and that the Sox are going to get pissed about the leaks and either decide to pull the offer (unlikely I hope) or that they won't budge off 8/$250 or whatever the current offer is (more likely I'd think; hopefully still not likely).

 

I'm kind of lost as to why everyone feels the need to keep leaking this information. 

 

Just now, Harry Chappas said:

I'm kind of lost as to why everyone feels the need to keep leaking this information. 

 

Because the Sox are upset at the Passan report.

Just now, whitesoxwinner said:

Lazano is for sure feeding passan that info though..we dont know if the sox or lazano is telling the truth

But why would the Sox refute it and refute it so strongly? Even if Manny goes somewhere else, you would think the Sox look better if the public believes they put out a respectable offer. If they miss and the world thinks they offered 7 years 200, they look like idiots.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

What would be the point in being honest about your offer?

Good point. Lazano likely wouldn't leak it if we weren't the leaders in the clubhouse also

Just now, Orlando said:

But why would the Sox refute it and refute it so strongly? Even if Manny goes somewhere else, you would think the Sox look better if the public believes they put out a respectable offer. If they miss and the world thinks they offered 7 years 200, they look like idiots.

They might not want the Phillies to know what they're exact numbers are and/or keep playing with the underdog card

Bottom line for me is this: If the offer is 7/200 million and they refuse to move, they will not get Manny. Why not let fans think they offered 8/250? Bizarre to me and I don't see what they gain in the end. Lozano knows what they offered, why would this be Sox vs Lozano?

This is fucking stupid. 

Just now, whitesoxwinner said:

They might not want the Phillies to know what they're exact numbers are and/or keep playing with the underdog card

It's 100% this. They knew they had the strongest offer and now the Phillies or another team can top them. They're going to keep doing this until the number gets close to 300 M.

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By denying it, they could cause other teams to question if Manny really does have 8/250 on the table or is 7/200 really the best he can get?

If the Sox offer is still just 7 years, and no one has jumped in to beat it in the last couple weeks, I would prefer to see the Sox raise it to something like 9/270 in exchange for pushing the earliest opt out to year 5-6, then to get a "great deal" at 7/220 but with an opt out after year 3-4. 

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