You uppity fans.

Not sure how it makes sense to compare the Cubs and White Sox spending on payroll

I didn't read the article, but I really don't understand Cub fan frustration that their team didn't spend more money this offseason. Sure, you can argue they spent money foolishly, but at least they went and got players that they identified as necessary for their team. At least the Cubs spent a shitload of money before finally crying poor. 

We have every right to complain though.  

The Sox have spent $45 million this offseason on mostly mediocre acquisitions.  A lowball offer of $250 million that isn’t accepted isn’t the same as spending $250 million.  Sullivan is a hobbit troll who should stay in his cave.

Edited February 24, 20197 yr by Harper2Sox

The Sox ahould not have a bottom-5 payroll, full stop.

24 minutes ago, daggins said:

The Sox ahould not have a bottom-5 payroll, full stop.

We’re still bottom five after spending $45 million extra on all the crap stopgap veterans we brought in?

Now that’s funny...”well, nobody can call them cheap if they spend, albeit foolishly.”  That’s not working out so well.  If anything, the perception they spent almost twenty years attempting to counter is the first word that comes to mind, unless one prefers delusional.

so Jerry's alias is Paul Sullivan?  It's truly unbelievable someone could write this article and include the White Sox.

Just putting Epstein and Hahn together in the same article must be infuriating to the Cubs’ front office...at least you know they’re motivated to do something about it.

Which means Addison Russell will invariably be added to the Sox roster in the next 12-18 months, because he would be a “name” addition.  Since we want to help out the Phillies w/ Harper, why not bail out the Cubs too?

Sox FO have their media mouthpieces justifying their terrible decisions the past week. Really shows the integrity of A lot of Chicago sports writers.

3 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said:

Sox FO have their media mouthpieces justifying their terrible decisions the past week. Really shows the integrity of A lot of Chicago sports writers.

What’s next, bringing Chris Rongey back to condescendingly tolerate and then summarily dismiss meathead pre and post-game callers?

Even Tony Robbins would lose patience with how brutal it will be this year.

Edited February 24, 20197 yr by caulfield12

1 minute ago, TheTruth05 said:

Sox FO have their media mouthpieces justifying their terrible decisions the past week. Really shows the integrity of A lot of Chicago sports writers.

This offseason has just been one continuous FU to the remaining fan base.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

This offseason has just been one continuous FU to the remaining fan base.

Doing ABSOLUTELY nothing would have been 10x better than what they’re trying to sell...whatever umpteenth current plan we’re on if someone could check with KW’s ballyhooed Big Board.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

This offseason has just been one continuous FU to the remaining fan base.

And they could solve it all by signing Harper but everyone based in reality knows there’s -30% chance that happens. Really couldn’t have gameplanned a worse offseason.

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

We’re still bottom five after spending $45 million extra on all the crap stopgap veterans we brought in?

Now that’s funny...”well, nobody can call them cheap if they spend, albeit foolishly.”  That’s not working out so well.  If anything, the perception they spent almost twenty years attempting to counter is the first word that comes to mind, unless one prefers delusional.

Actually no, the chart I was looking at was out of date. I know the usual suspects are down at the bottom - Pirates, Rays, Marlins, A's. The Sox have about the same projected payroll as the Royals, according to Cots - about 105M. But the Orioles have cut so much salary that they are below us now. So, the Sox should come in around 24 or 23. So not bottom 5. But damn close.

This article is insulting to his readers. Shove it up your ass, Paul. 

Yes Paul, the fans are greedy and the owners are just scraping by. Sullivan has proven he's just as far removed from reality as JR and company.

Edited February 24, 20197 yr by Jack Parkman

 

3 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

 

Agreed with Keith Law here.

You spend some money and a few years later you have no moves you can make. That was the message I got. A small market team has less room for error. Not sure what the answer is.  

The bright side is it's now clear the Sox do not employ the dumbest people working in Chicago

16 minutes ago, Jake said:

The bright side is it's now clear the Sox do not employ the dumbest people working in Chicago

The Bulls?   They're actually on a hot streak for them, who are you referring to?

Oh, Sullivan.  This has been the year of media bashing, on multiple levels.  Some is well-deserved, some borderline unconstitutional.

Edited February 25, 20197 yr by caulfield12

The whitesox weekly show on 720 had a similar message.  How it was a blessing in disguise how we didn't sign that 300 million dollar albatross. How we can spread the money around and get more bang for the buck.   The media is in full clean up mode.  

 

This is wrong. Sox fans have frustrated me during the rebuild by NOT wanting the front office to spend money. They made the one exception for Manny and to a lesser extent Harper. Aside from them, any sign of the Sox paying for a player has been met with scorn. They were OK with Jay and Alonso at first as it was a ploy to get Manny. Now they're not happy about paying them anything. But unless it's an obvious deal where we are to flip the player ... Sox fans don't want us spending any money at all except for the few whales.

54 minutes ago, greg775 said:

This is wrong. Sox fans have frustrated me during the rebuild by NOT wanting the front office to spend money. They made the one exception for Manny and to a lesser extent Harper. Aside from them, any sign of the Sox paying for a player has been met with scorn. They were OK with Jay and Alonso at first as it was a ploy to get Manny. Now they're not happy about paying them anything. But unless it's an obvious deal where we are to flip the player ... Sox fans don't want us spending any money at all except for the few whales.

It's not just the fact that they were "whales," but that they were 26 year old top-tier talents who are and will be in the prime of their careers during the perceived window. 

Tell me, which signing do we have to show that hits on even 1 of those qualities? Which signing should we be happy about? 

5 hours ago, greg775 said:

This is wrong. Sox fans have frustrated me during the rebuild by NOT wanting the front office to spend money. They made the one exception for Manny and to a lesser extent Harper. Aside from them, any sign of the Sox paying for a player has been met with scorn. They were OK with Jay and Alonso at first as it was a ploy to get Manny. Now they're not happy about paying them anything. But unless it's an obvious deal where we are to flip the player ... Sox fans don't want us spending any money at all except for the few whales.

The Sox were in tank mode the first couple years of the rebuild. It was right to not spend the last 2 winters. It's no longer the right thing to do.