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Future White Sox Lineup #GetExcited

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On 4/20/2019 at 12:18 PM, beautox said:

2020 (OD)         2020 (A-S)          2021 (OD) 

  • 1B:  Collins              Collins               Collins
  • 2B:  Madrigal           Madrigal            Madrigal
  • SS:  Anderson        Anderson           Anderson
  • 3B:  Moncada         Moncada           Moncada
  • LF:   Luis G              Luis G                 Luis G
  • CF:  Robert             Robert                Robert
  • RF:  Luis B               Luis B                 Luis B
  • DH: Jimenez           Jimenez              Jimenez
  • CA:  Grandal          Grandal              Rutschman

    I think we see Robert, Madrigal & Collins all graduate this year at some point. I think both Luis' make their way to AAA as well. I also think prospect fatigue will be real with Rutschman ala Rodon and the sox pick him at 3. The Os will go underslot for Witt and KC going for Lodolo or Thompson. Lastly this will be the final sell off this trade deadline I hope the sox focus on super low minors to supplement the pipeline.
     

    Alex Colome for OF Drew Waters# & LHP Kyle Muller from the braves

    Ivan Nova for OF Julio Rodriguez & LHP Brayan Perez from the mariners

    Kelvin Herrera for 3B Malcom Nunez & C Ivan Herrera from the cardinals

    Yonder Alonso for OF Jeremy De La Rosa from the nationals

    Jose Abreu for SS Livan Soto from the angels

These trades are so in favor of the White Sox. Pipes dream

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2 hours ago, mqr said:

Because good enought maybe win the central isn't very good. 

The Twins will be a probably be competitive, but they're not going to be some kind of monolithic obstacle. 

The Sox basically need everything to go right from this point forward, since they've squandered so much already and the future is heavily dependent on consistent quality drafting, international signings and development.

51 minutes ago, OneDog847 said:

Maybe we can trade Fulmer, Collins, and Burger for Kirilloff? 

Me thinks not. 

15 hours ago, PolishPrince34 said:

These trades are so in favor of the White Sox. Pipes dream

Outside of Waters, not a single one of those prospects is in the top 150 and all are 17-18 with none above A ball or 45 FV? if anything its a conservative estimate. 

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On 4/19/2019 at 7:47 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

The future lineup for the White Sox is coming together right before our eyes.

 

1. Madrigal - age 22.1 (120 wRC+ in A+)

2. Moncada - age 23.9 (155 wRC+ in MLB)

3. Martinez - age 31.7 (170 wRC+ in MLB, everyone here knows I love me some JDM)

4. Jimenez - age 22.4 (104 wRC+ in MLB)

5. Robert - age 21.7 (303 wRC+ in A+)

6. Vaughn - age 21.0 (1.24 OPS in college)

7. Collins - age 24.2 (148 wRC+ in AAA)

8. Anderson - age 25.8 (204 wRC+ in MLB)

9. Cordell - age 27.1 (367 wRC+ in MLB, 133 wRC+ in AAA)

 

#GetExcited

 

Time for an update now that we are just over a quarter of the way into the season.

1. Madrigal - 103 wRC+ in A+

2. Moncada - 131 wRC+ in MLB

3. Martinez - 141 wRC+ in MLB

4. Jimenez - 83 wRC+ in MLB

5. Robert - 297 wRC+ in A+, 162 wRC+ in AA

6. Vaughn - 1.242 OPS in college

7. Collins - 130 wRC+ in AAA

8. Anderson - 133 wRC+ in MLB

9. Cordell - 130 wRC+ in AAA, 103 wRC+ in MLB

3 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Time for an update now that we are just over a quarter of the way into the season.

1. Madrigal - 103 wRC+ in A+

2. Moncada - 131 wRC+ in MLB

3. Martinez - 141 wRC+ in MLB

4. Jimenez - 83 wRC+ in MLB

5. Robert - 297 wRC+ in A+, 162 wRC+ in AA

6. Vaughn - 1.242 OPS in college

7. Collins - 130 wRC+ in AAA

8. Anderson - 133 wRC+ in MLB

9. Cordell - 130 wRC+ in AAA, 103 wRC+ in MLB

Maybe replace Vaughn with CJ Abrams at this point?

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4 minutes ago, OneDog847 said:

Maybe replace Vaughn with CJ Abrams at this point?

We’ll see? I’m not convinced they’re taking Abrams at this point but we will find out in 15 days.

3 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Time for an update now that we are just over a quarter of the way into the season.

1. Madrigal - 103 wRC+ in A+

2. Moncada - 131 wRC+ in MLB

3. Martinez - 141 wRC+ in MLB

4. Jimenez - 83 wRC+ in MLB

5. Robert - 297 wRC+ in A+, 162 wRC+ in AA

6. Vaughn - 1.242 OPS in college

7. Collins - 130 wRC+ in AAA

8. Anderson - 133 wRC+ in MLB

9. Cordell - 130 wRC+ in AAA, 103 wRC+ in MLB

Where's Palka? Damn, I'm on fire today!

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On 4/22/2019 at 6:18 PM, ScooterMcGee said:

Same with me but with Konerko. I had the Paulie vs Derek Lee arguments lol. Crede vs Aramis Ramirez were always fun too.

I feel old.  My grade school arguments were Ernie vs Nellie.

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On 5/19/2019 at 10:17 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Time for an update now that we are just over a quarter of the way into the season.

1. Madrigal - 103 wRC+ in A+

2. Moncada - 131 wRC+ in MLB

3. Martinez - 141 wRC+ in MLB

4. Jimenez - 83 wRC+ in MLB

5. Robert - 297 wRC+ in A+, 162 wRC+ in AA

6. Vaughn - 1.242 OPS in college

7. Collins - 130 wRC+ in AAA

8. Anderson - 133 wRC+ in MLB

9. Cordell - 130 wRC+ in AAA, 103 wRC+ in MLB

I’m too lazy to update it right now but two months into the season and this is still looking very nice.

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Welcome Andrew. Next step, sign JDM this winter. It’s all coming together ?

On 4/22/2019 at 5:02 PM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

A great time to be alive 

I love the Simpsons

I suspect depending on how things turn out regarding injuries, Jose' etc the Sox could have a need for a right fielder with power, a DH and certainly both starting and relief pitching in the next year or so.

 

48 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Welcome Andrew. Next step, sign JDM this winter. It’s all coming together ?

Need a lefty sign Scooter Gennett. Madrigal has a while to go.

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46 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Need a lefty sign Scooter Gennett. Madrigal has a while to go.

Scooter would be a nice signing and shouldn’t break the bank by any means.

On 4/23/2019 at 10:31 AM, beautox said:

Outside of Waters, not a single one of those prospects is in the top 150 and all are 17-18 with none above A ball or 45 FV? if anything its a conservative estimate. 

Herrera is worth nothing as things stand now.  It went from good to crapola almost overnight so I do wonder if health is behind it.  Behind the scenes I imagine the Sox are looking into it health wise.

On ‎4‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 11:26 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

I mean if Cordell, Leury, or whatever else you throw out there is a 80-100 wRC+ guy, is it really a big deal as the #9 hitter in the lineup? And yes, I do view JDM as an extremely viable option for the Sox as I’ve previously explained in other threads.

I hope you're right. JD has been my favorite hitter in baseball to watch going back to 2015. 

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Still looking ?

1. Madrigal - 106 wRC+ in A+, 294 wRC+ in AA

2. Moncada - 128 wRC+ in MLB

3. Martinez - 137 wRC+ in MLB

 4. Jimenez - 96 wRC+ in MLB

5. Robert - 297 wRC+ in A+, 169 wRC+ in AA

6. Vaughn - 1.242 OPS in college

7. Collins - 123 wRC+ in AAA

8. Anderson - 122 wRC+ in MLB

9. Basabe - 144 wRC+ in A, 76 wRC+ in AA

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When TA is your #7 or #8 hitter (legitimately, not because RR is a dumbass), you’ve got the makings of a fantastic lineup.

On 5/19/2019 at 2:57 PM, poppysox said:

I feel old.  My grade school arguments were Ernie vs Nellie.

Mine were Chico vs Roy Smalley.

8 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Still looking ?

1. Madrigal - 106 wRC+ in A+, 294 wRC+ in AA

2. Moncada - 128 wRC+ in MLB

3. Martinez - 137 wRC+ in MLB

 4. Jimenez - 96 wRC+ in MLB

5. Robert - 297 wRC+ in A+, 169 wRC+ in AA

6. Vaughn - 1.242 OPS in college

7. Collins - 123 wRC+ in AAA

8. Anderson - 122 wRC+ in MLB

9. Basabe - 144 wRC+ in A, 76 wRC+ in AA

Where do you get JDM coming to the White Sox?

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2 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Where do you get JDM coming to the White Sox?

Free agency

16 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Still looking ?

1. Madrigal - 106 wRC+ in A+, 294 wRC+ in AA

2. Moncada - 128 wRC+ in MLB

3. Martinez - 137 wRC+ in MLB

 4. Jimenez - 96 wRC+ in MLB

5. Robert - 297 wRC+ in A+, 169 wRC+ in AA

6. Vaughn - 1.242 OPS in college

7. Collins - 123 wRC+ in AAA

8. Anderson - 122 wRC+ in MLB

9. Basabe - 144 wRC+ in A, 76 wRC+ in AA

Sox should be aggressive in free agency to build a winner as soon as 2020

I'd prefer not to pay big bucks for JD Martinez 33-36+ age seasons.  Obviously depends on the deal, but I just don't really see him as a fit.  If we're going after a bat in should be a LH hitter, and preferably someone who can play RF for a season or two.  

My (fantasy) offseason plan:

Sign Gerrit Cole (6 years, $168M)

Sign Yasmani Grandal (3 years, $60M)

Re-sign Jose Abreu (2 years, $18M)

Sign Scotter Gennett (3 years, $36M)

Sign Alex Wood (1 year, $10M)

Adds: $292M in spending, ~$80M to 2020 payroll, which would still be below league average at around $115-$120M

Opening Day:

Lineup: Leury Garcia CF, Yoan Moncada 3B, Jose Abreu 1B, Eloy Jimenez LF, Yasmani Grandal C, Scotter Gennett 2B, Zack Collins DH, Tim Anderson SS, Someone (Tilson, Cordell, Basabe, RF

Rotation: Cole, Giolito, Cease, Wood, Lopez

Bullpen: Colome, Herrera, Hamilton, Bummer, Burr, Frare, Fry, one of Covey/Ruiz/Vieria/Marshall/etc.

Bench: McCann, Sanchez, Tilson/Cordell/Basabe/Engel

Mid-Season:

Lineup: Luis Robert CF, Yoan Moncada 3B, Andrew Vaughn 1B (if ready, if not keep Collins around), Eloy Jimenez LF, Jose Abreu DH, Yasmani Grandal C, Scotter Gennett RF, Tim Anderson SS, Nick Madrigal 2B

Rotation: Cole, Giolito, Kopech, Cease, Wood (or Lopez)

Bullpen: Same

Bench: McCann, Sanchez, Leury, Collins (back to AAA, or 7 man pen)

 

Pipedream? For sure.  But I'd go to fucking battle with that team.  

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