2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Yes they are. 

See: Tatis/Shields. 

Never underestimate the stupidity of the Sox FO. 

I'd hope Robert is off limits after JR spent $52M on him. 

Yeah, Tatis when he was a nobody vs Robert now is definitely a fair comparison.

Just now, KopechThrowsHeat said:

this video gives clarity to his comments. Sounds like Nomar will bat lower half of the lineup against RHP

Chuck and Hahn both look like they hit the club last night hard.  Jesus.

2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

No problem with that. 

Honestly, I'd prefer it was Madrigal. Idk if the Rays would want him because they just traded Pham for a 2B. 

Yes, if it is the Rays, it's more likely to be Vaughn because of that trade. 

Hahn would also hide behind the fact that Vaughn is at least a year away from MLB and he'd say his adjustment period would be right in the middle of the window and with Jose's extension and lack do desire to play DH (as if that's relevant), there was "no place" for Andrew as a result. 

It just sucks Wheeler's wife put us in this position of having to cannibalize the key fruits of the rebuild for a pitcher but it is what it is. 

4 minutes ago, Nokona said:

Somehow this messageboard gets more and more reactionary everyday.

 

Think about what you've just posted.  Seriously.  

 

Then take a long walk off a short pier

Please tell me the water has a rough current

5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Not really. It's just me going to a dark place because I think Kenny/Hahn are morons. 

I was 90% joking. 

I really don't think they're THAT brain dead, but you never know.......

Hopefully Jerry reminds them of the $52M he shelled out for Robert, and there is no way he's playing his first 6.5 years anywhere but here. 

 

2 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Yeah, Tatis when he was a nobody vs Robert now is definitely a fair comparison.

Read above. It was mostly a joke. More of a shot at KW/Hahn's track record than anything else. 

Not actually serious. 

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by Jack Parkman

Why does everyone keep talking about guys on this roster being set in stone for 2-3 years?  You COULD sign Castellanos still and play mix and match.  If Vaughn is ready by next year, you trade someone (Mazara, Castellanos, etc.).  We actually would have some depth for once.  Abreu 1B/DH,  Castellanos RF/DH, Mazara RF/DH (and both for LF when Eloy needs a day off).  There's enough room.  Get quality players and figure out metrics later

3 minutes ago, KopechThrowsHeat said:

this video gives clarity to his comments. Sounds like Nomar will bat lower half of the lineup against RHP

Hahn lost me with his “good defense” comment right at the end of the video.  C’mon, Rick...

Just now, Wisebri224 said:

Why does everyone keep talking about guys on this roster being set in stone for 2-3 years?  You COULD sign Castellanos still and play mix and match.  If Vaughn is ready by next year, you trade someone (Mazara, Castellanos, etc.).  We actually would have some depth for once.  Abreu 1B/DH,  Castellanos RF/DH, Mazara RF/DH (and both for LF when Eloy needs a day off).  There's enough room.  Get quality players and figure out metrics later

Because the Sox don’t work like this.  They didn’t acquire a much cheaper Mazara for RF to throw $80-$100 million at Castellanos.

4 minutes ago, KopechThrowsHeat said:

this video gives clarity to his comments. Sounds like Nomar will bat lower half of the lineup against RHP

"This deal fucking sucks LOL".

6 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said:

Why do smart posters keep forgetting DH is locked up with our team leader the next 3 years?  This team never would have reached 70 wins without Abreus leadership.

Not if Vaughn is the main piece of a package for a stud pitcher.

Jose would remain at 1B most likely since he hates DHing and they apparently cater to his every whim.

Just now, SoCalChiSox said:

Not if Vaughn is the main piece of a package for a stud pitcher.

Jose would remain at 1B most likely since he hates DHing and they apparently cater to his every whim.

Sure, I'm perfectly fine with this.  I thought Vaughn was not a good signing anyways.

7 minutes ago, KopechThrowsHeat said:

this video gives clarity to his comments. Sounds like Nomar will bat lower half of the lineup against RHP

I want that jacket. Okay carry on. 

1 minute ago, BackDoorBreach said:

Sure, I'm perfectly fine with this.  I thought Vaughn was not a good signing anyways.

Agreed. I didn't think Vaughn was a good pick either. Would have preferred Bleday or Abrams. If they can flip him for Snell, that would be great. 

Edited December 11, 20196 yr by Jack Parkman

3 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Not if Vaughn is the main piece of a package for a stud pitcher.

Jose would remain at 1B most likely since he hates DHing and they apparently cater to his every whim.

What level of pitcher do people think we get for 1 top 50 prospect and nothing else on the top 100 list? That's what the Yankees sent us for Kahnle. 

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

What level of pitcher do people think we get for 1 top 50 prospect and nothing else on the top 100 list? That's what the Yankees sent us for Kahnle. 

The Yankees also took back a bunch of money.

12 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said:

Why do smart posters keep forgetting DH is locked up with our team leader the next 3 years?  This team never would have reached 70 wins without Abreus leadership.

Because maybe Vaughn gets traded

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Agreed. I didn't think Vaughn was a good pick either. Would have preferred Bleday or Abrams. 

I wanted Bleday because he actually made sense and was not ranked much different than Vaughn at the time.

I got chastized for saying we had 5 or 6 DH/1Bs on the roster already.

Just now, Dick Allen said:

The Yankees also took back a bunch of money.

Fine, give me a name that makes sense. That's no where near Blake Snell. Who else is on the trading block that we think this would be a sensible return for? 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Because maybe Vaughn gets traded

Again, I'm fine with that.  I would love to trade him for good SP. I don't know how likely that is though.

Vaughn looks like a much better draft pick if the Sox don’t needlessly give Abreu a 3-year, $50 million dollar extension.

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

Fine, give me a name that makes sense. That's no where near Blake Snell. Who else is on the trading block that we think this would be a sensible return for? 

Rankings aside, it sort of depends how the other org views Vaughn, doesn't it?

Rutherford may have been highly ranked at the time of the Kahnle trade but he was also having a pretty underwhelming season at A ball.  

32 minutes ago, fathom said:

I would love a trade for Chris Taylor of the Dodgers. He would be the perfect utility player for what this team needs.

Chad Pinder would also be an interesting move.

Just now, Moan4Yoan said:

Vaughn looks like a much better draft pick if the Sox don’t needlessly give Abreu a 3-year, $50 million dollar extension.

Want to watch FO Shills come out? (Outside of Greg69420)

Yeah but they needlessly did because they don't have any real analytics pressure, and like Ricky, they like the gut moves.  There was absolutely no reason to give this guy a 2 year 32 million dollar extension aside from being a really fucking bad front office.

At $10 million for the next 4 years, it's gonna cost Vaughn and probably two SP (Dunning, Lopez, Steivers), and an OF Prospect or two (Basabe, Adolfo) or maybe Collins.  It's 3 or 4 for 1, but seriously, it leaves you with money for future add ons once you see what this crew can do:

C - Grandal

1B - Abreu

2B - Madrigal

SS - Anderson

3B - Moncada

LF - Jimenez

CF - Robert

RF - Mazara and whatevs

DH - ANother FA or McCann

SP - Gio, Snell, Kopech, FA, Rodon, (Lopez or another system SP)

 

You'r realllly thin in the minors now but you have a window and cash......

3 hours ago, Steve9347 said:

At the very worst, we've added a right fielder who fields like a dream and can do some damage at the bottom of our lineup and is a massive upgrade from what we had.

Fields like a dream or a nightmare?