August 20, 20205 yr Man of faith. Not who he is. Then why oh why did he say it while at work? He didn't seem to apologize to any of his co-workers who would have heard it. But once he found out it went out on the air, and people were calling for his job, oh so sorry. Everybody screws up. I just hate these cookie cutter "apologies". What he was sorry for was being caught. I'm sure it's not the first time he's said something similar. I don't really think this should cost him a career, but it should cost him his job and maybe his Fox football job. Let some other person "of faith" take over. I'm guessing they won't say what he say. He can do the faith thing for a while. Get some sensitivity training, and then look for a new gig, and if he's the best person for the job, the next team or network should have no problem hiring him.
August 20, 20205 yr https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/columnists/paul-daugherty/2020/08/19/doc-thom-brennaman-slur-words-matter-words-create-perceptions/5614164002/ Paul Daugherty on Thom Brennaman slur: Words matter. Words create perceptions. Too often, perception is reality. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2020/08/19/reds-announcer-thom-brennaman-uses-homophobic-slur-amir-garrett-matt-bowman-chris-seelbach-reactions/5614046002/
August 20, 20205 yr He would like to apologize who people who sign his paychecks while reminding them he is a man of faith. But real quick, he must call a HR that is landing in the judgement free zone. This is the second funniest HR call of all time after Mike Trout swimming through the universe, except this one is like an SNL sketch.
August 20, 20205 yr I agree, no way that was the first time he said something like that. Just incredibly unprofessional, hot mics happen where you embarrass yourselves. This isn't a hot mic, he should be fired even if they weren't live.
August 20, 20205 yr Curious where you draw the line. Is it an actual slur that makes it a fireable offense? What if you just say something racist or offensive without the hard slur? What is the standard for being fired if you’re in the public eye?
August 20, 20205 yr 57 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Curious where you draw the line. Is it an actual slur that makes it a fireable offense? What if you just say something racist or offensive without the hard slur? What is the standard for being fired if you’re in the public eye? If I was saying anything remotely inappropriate on a conference call prior to a client hopping on, and it turned out they were on, I would be fired. If they were not on yet, it is very likely I would be fired if other reasonable people from my company were on the call. If anything he's more protected "being in the public eye" since he can cry "pc police". It's incredibly easy not to say racial or homophobic slurs at work. It's kind of a barest of minimums kind of requirement.
August 20, 20205 yr 17 minutes ago, bmags said: If I was saying anything remotely inappropriate on a conference call prior to a client hopping on, and it turned out they were on, I would be fired. If they were not on yet, it is very likely I would be fired if other reasonable people from my company were on the call. If anything he's more protected "being in the public eye" since he can cry "pc police". It's incredibly easy not to say racial or homophobic slurs at work. It's kind of a barest of minimums kind of requirement. There's also a MASSIVE difference between someone going after your job for something you side outside of work, and actively and massively fucking up while on the clock.
August 20, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, mqr said: There's also a MASSIVE difference between someone going after your job for something you side outside of work, and actively and massively fucking up while on the clock. Right exactly, he’s at work! His producers were hearing this even if the audience didn’t cut in. This isn’t someone saying they heard him use it at a restaurant.
August 20, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Man of faith. Not who he is. The irony of going the man of faith route on this one too...
August 20, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, mqr said: The irony of going the man of faith route on this one too... Sadly in 2020, "man of faith" and looking down on gays is actually very fungible.
August 20, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Sadly in 2020, "man of faith" and looking down on gays is actually very fungible. I'm definitely not a man of faith but I went to Catholic school most of my life and watching people that drop that line when doing something stupid is just....cringeworthy.
August 20, 20205 yr Just now, Chi Town Sox said: I'm definitely not a man of faith but I went to Catholic school most of my life and watching people that drop that line when doing something stupid is just....cringeworthy. Oh it is. It is a total copout, and a way to not take responsibility while wrapping yourself in the cloth of Christianity. But you obviously aren't too good for this because you JUST did it.
August 20, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, Jerksticks said: Curious where you draw the line. Is it an actual slur that makes it a fireable offense? What if you just say something racist or offensive without the hard slur? What is the standard for being fired if you’re in the public eye? If there was a context that made what he said ok, don't you think he would have at least attempted to explain it? in what way is saying something like that not fireable at any job nowadays?
August 20, 20205 yr If you listen to it, he sounds almost angry saying it. Like there is an imbedded hatred. It wasn’t said lightly with a laugh like he was joking. The tone seems to indicate he has a huge problem with gay people. Probably would hide behind the faith curtain for that as well.
August 20, 20205 yr 31 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Huh, this seemed like right up Fox's alley. Maybe he can catch on with the news department.
August 20, 20205 yr 7 hours ago, Jerksticks said: Curious where you draw the line. Is it an actual slur that makes it a fireable offense? What if you just say something racist or offensive without the hard slur? What is the standard for being fired if you’re in the public eye? I want to know in what situation this is not a fireable offense?
August 20, 20205 yr Like a lot of people who grew up in the 80s and 90s I used to use that word casually because I thought it was funny and justified it by saying "I don't really mean it like THAT." But you learn better and you do better and I can count on one hand the number of times I've said it in the last 15-20 years, the only time I can think of was when I was telling someone "I used to use (that word)" and it felt like I was choking it out.
August 21, 20205 yr https://www.outsports.com/2020/8/20/21377621/thom-brennaman-gay-fired-reds-suspended-broadcast-fox Interesting take from OutSports on why they wouldn't fire him.
August 21, 20205 yr 4 hours ago, Quin said: I want to know in what situation this is not a fireable offense? Politics?
August 21, 20205 yr 23 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Politics? If you're saying politicians in particular, specifically elected politicians, they can't be fired. Just voted out.
August 21, 20205 yr 17 hours ago, lostfan said: Like a lot of people who grew up in the 80s and 90s I used to use that word casually because I thought it was funny and justified it by saying "I don't really mean it like THAT." But you learn better and you do better and I can count on one hand the number of times I've said it in the last 15-20 years, the only time I can think of was when I was telling someone "I used to use (that word)" and it felt like I was choking it out. Exactly. As a kid, no one ever used it by its meaning. And likely started because you just a heard another kid use it without knowing the meaning. But you learn and grow up.
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