1 minute ago, BigHurt3515 said:

What does Don Cooper do with Cease? Anything?

FTFU

Cooper has been with the Sox longer than many here have been alive (1988). I still contend he passed in 2012, a taxidermist stuffed him and added remote control wheels for mound visits, and Reinsdorf pockets the pitching coach salary.

I support sending Cease down for a few days to work on his control. See if he can get one more start in preparation for the playoffs after that.

Just now, hi8is said:

In many ways, this was the worst Cease outing in his career after a great first inning.
 

Emphasizing his struggles, in this poor start he gave up no runs and no hits.

Hard to give up hits when you walk 7 guys in a three inning span. This is ridiculous, he should be beyond this.  

It’s amazing to me some people think the Sox shouldn’t go after pitching this offseason. More than ever their starting pitching depth looks iffy 

2 minutes ago, hi8is said:

In many ways, this was the worst Cease outing in his career after a great first inning.
 

Emphasizing his struggles, in this poor start he gave up no runs and no hits.

Makes the ERA look great, but the peripherals ??

Just now, fathom said:

It’s amazing to me some people think the Sox shouldn’t go after pitching this offseason. More than ever their starting pitching depth looks iffy 

Exactly. I'd roll with FA, Gio, DK, Kopech, and let the rest figure itself out. 

TA got an out at least. 

1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said:

Hard to give up hits when you walk 7 guys in a three inning span.

True ??

2 minutes ago, almagest said:

I support sending Cease down for a few days to work on his control. See if he can get one more start in preparation for the playoffs after that.

How long would he be sent down for? There's a week left in the regular season. He isn't fixing his control in Schaumberg in 2 days

Just now, SonofaRoache said:

Exactly. I'd roll with FA, Gio, DK, Kopech, and let the rest figure itself out. 

Kopech can’t be relied upon at all. Even if he is solid, he won’t give you a ton of innings.

Just now, Tony said:

There is no way the FO is confident in the SP depth. I 100% expect it to be addressed in some way this offseason 

You know I agree, but some seem to have way too much confidence in Cease and Lopez. I think two veterans should be brought in.

He's afraid of bats because he doesn't trust his stuff.  He's an absolute fucking headcase who needs to go through the same mental program Gio uses.  It's like in his mind he sees giving the hitter something to hit is more worrisome than a walk.

1 minute ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

He's afraid of bats because he doesn't trust his stuff.  He's an absolute fucking headcase who needs to go through the same mental program Gio uses.  It's like in his mind he sees giving the hitter something to hit is more worrisome than a walk.

He’s not afraid of the bat, this is purely a mechanical thing. He pulls more pitches than any pitcher I’ve ever seen.

Just now, Tony said:

Some...on this board or in the front office? 

Board

3 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

How long would he be sent down for? There's a week left in the regular season. He isn't fixing his control in Schaumberg in 2 days

Until his next start, if possible. Or just keep him down until the postseason. If the alternative is a performance like this I'd like to give it a shot.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

You know I agree, but some seem to have way too much confidence in Cease and Lopez. I think two veterans should be brought in.

Sox are entering the playoffs with essentially 3 starters.  Dunning has been good but he’s still a rookie.  Nothing dependable after him.  Even with Kopech up at some point next season they will need starting arms. 

Edited September 20, 20205 yr by SouthWallace

9 walks...

Only intermittently watching and only just realized the Reds still have zero hits.

If Cease pitches in the playoffs, somebody needs to be fired immediately. Sign Bauer this off season and let Crochet, Kopech, and Dunning battle for 4/5. Let Cease...well, let him do something else.

 

Flipping back and fourth, wtf is this crap.

Just walk everyone

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

He’s not afraid of the bat, this is purely a mechanical thing. He pulls more pitches than any pitcher I’ve ever seen.

This. Cease is the last guy you can call a "mental headcase". This is purely mechanical issues with hin.

7 minutes ago, fathom said:

Kopech can’t be relied upon at all. Even if he is solid, he won’t give you a ton of innings.

I mean as in they will get innings for sure. Kopech will get innings.  Everyone else can earn it. And some will earn it. 

Anyone know the record for team walks given up in a game?

Detwiler with bad control too.