October 18, 20205 yr https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/10/astros-heckler-megaphone-alcs-cheating-scandal-balcony-petco-park https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/sports/baseball/astros-heckler-megaphone.html?smid=tw-share This is national story that's been in USA Today and NY Times. Did the SunTimes or Tribune write anything about this guy Tim Kantner ? Thanks to the guys in the ALCS thread in Diamond Club for finding this. SInce it was a Sox fan I figured it should go in Pale Hose Talk.
October 18, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/10/astros-heckler-megaphone-alcs-cheating-scandal-balcony-petco-park https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/sports/baseball/astros-heckler-megaphone.html?smid=tw-share This is national story that's been in USA Today and NY Times. Did the SunTimes or Tribune write anything about this guy Tim Kantner ? Thanks to the guys in the ALCS thread in Diamond Club for finding this. SInce it was a Sox fan I figured it should go in Pale Hose Talk. I don't think the Astros are gonna get any sympathy from anyone. They are SO lucky this year of all years we couldn't have any fans in the stands, they were going to get absolutely eviscerated. Edited October 18, 20205 yr by KonerkoFan1
October 19, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Dallas Kong said: Goodness, it’s a game. It was three years ago. Get over it, dude. I don’t know many games that deal in billions. It’s a business.
October 19, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, Blackout Friday said: I don’t know many games that deal in billions. It’s a business. Sure, but it’s not like the Astros cheated Clayton Kershaw out of his pension and caused him to starve to death. They “stole” a championship ring from him. Should they have done it? Just like the ‘roid guys, no. But the endless, unforgiving moral preening towards them is a bit silly. Nobody died, let it go.
October 19, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, Dallas Kong said: Sure, but it’s not like the Astros cheated Clayton Kershaw out of his pension and caused him to starve to death. They “stole” a championship ring from him. Should they have done it? Just like the ‘roid guys, no. But the endless, unforgiving moral preening towards them is a bit silly. Nobody died, let it go. Why is it silly? A bunch of players conducted one of the most elaborate cheating schemes in baseball history and weren’t punished at all despite being caught. What the fuck is wrong with people holding them accountable? I think it’s silly you think we should all pretend it didn’t happen or this is some kind of “moral preening”. Edited October 19, 20205 yr by Chicago White Sox
October 19, 20205 yr This is pretty genius of a heckling. It is also silly to think that players didn't get cheated out of money here. There are a couple of careers that may have been destroyed along the way of guys who got blown up as pitchers by this scam.
October 19, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, Dallas Kong said: Sure, but it’s not like the Astros cheated Clayton Kershaw out of his pension and caused him to starve to death. They “stole” a championship ring from him. Should they have done it? Just like the ‘roid guys, no. But the endless, unforgiving moral preening towards them is a bit silly. Nobody died, let it go.
October 19, 20205 yr 5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: This is pretty genius of a heckling. It is also silly to think that players didn't get cheated out of money here. There are a couple of careers that may have been destroyed along the way of guys who got blown up as pitchers by this scam. It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. We’re not talking about a genocide here. Want to heckle them? Go for it, but make it fun. Bring a metal trash can out on the balcony, crank up your megaphone, and bang on that thing in senseless patterns. Or shout things like, “Give me a trash can and I’ll make my grandma hit better than Carlos Correa.” This dude just stood up there and blared out, “Jose Altuve cheated. Shame on you, Jose.” What’s genius about that? It’s the same sort of turgid hectoring you’d find at a political protest these days.
October 19, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, Dallas Kong said: It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. We’re not talking about a genocide here. Want to heckle them? Go for it, but make it fun. Bring a metal trash can out on the balcony, crank up your megaphone, and bang on that thing in senseless patterns. Or shout things like, “Give me a trash can and I’ll make my grandma hit better than Carlos Correa.” This dude just stood up there and blared out, “Jose Altuve cheated. Shame on you, Jose.” What’s genius about that? It’s the same sort of turgid hectoring you’d find at a political protest these days. good word.
October 19, 20205 yr 48 minutes ago, Dallas Kong said: It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. We’re not talking about a genocide here. Want to heckle them? Go for it, but make it fun. Bring a metal trash can out on the balcony, crank up your megaphone, and bang on that thing in senseless patterns. Or shout things like, “Give me a trash can and I’ll make my grandma hit better than Carlos Correa.” This dude just stood up there and blared out, “Jose Altuve cheated. Shame on you, Jose.” What’s genius about that? It’s the same sort of turgid hectoring you’d find at a political protest these days. It isn't about what he said, it is about how he said it. This guy figured out how to get into a series where there was no admission to the games. He figured out that in a normal playoff situation, there would be 40,000 people hanging on every single pitch, and his voice would never get heard, even with a bullhorn. He also figured out how to get national media attention drawn back to the Astros, and how to make the Astros have to actually hear it, and talk about it. Again. No one else has managed to achieve any of it.
October 21, 20205 yr Author On 10/18/2020 at 5:22 PM, skooch said: This guy's going to look like a real ass if the Sox hire Hinch. Or is it the Sox who will look like ass ?
October 21, 20205 yr On 10/19/2020 at 4:07 PM, Dallas Kong said: It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. We’re not talking about a genocide here. Want to heckle them? Go for it, but make it fun. Bring a metal trash can out on the balcony, crank up your megaphone, and bang on that thing in senseless patterns. Or shout things like, “Give me a trash can and I’ll make my grandma hit better than Carlos Correa.” This dude just stood up there and blared out, “Jose Altuve cheated. Shame on you, Jose.” What’s genius about that? It’s the same sort of turgid hectoring you’d find at a political protest these days. I’ve seen this on message boards before and I really don’t understand the “it’s just a game” or “it’s just a band” or “it’s just a movie” angle. This entire board is about “just a game.” Using similar logic, anyone could respond to any opinion you post on any topic with “it’s just a game, get over it.” How does that get us anywhere? None of this is life and death. Edited October 21, 20205 yr by Greg Hibbard
October 21, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Greg Hibbard said: I’ve seen this on message boards before and I really don’t understand the “it’s just a game” or “it’s just a band” or “it’s just a movie” angle. This entire board is about “just a game.” Using similar logic, anyone could respond to any opinion you post on any topic with “it’s just a game, get over it.” How does that get us anywhere? None of this is life and death. Because it is just a game. Heckling them is fine, but don’t be so serious about it. Reducing your chants to “shame on you” or wondering how to explain the hiring of AJ Hinch to your children is jumping the shark. In the midst of 2020, we can all see that there are much more important things to get worked up about. Carlos Correa banging on trash cans to send signals to a teammate is douchey, but it didn’t lead to anyone getting stuffed into a cattle car or starving to death or otherwise having their human rights violated.
October 21, 20205 yr “Shame on you” is funny. They aren’t swearing or calling them names. He didn’t say they are bad people. Shame on you is just a funny way of heckling them in my opinion.
October 21, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Dallas Kong said: Because it is just a game. Heckling them is fine, but don’t be so serious about it. Reducing your chants to “shame on you” or wondering how to explain the hiring of AJ Hinch to your children is jumping the shark. In the midst of 2020, we can all see that there are much more important things to get worked up about. Carlos Correa banging on trash cans to send signals to a teammate is douchey, but it didn’t lead to anyone getting stuffed into a cattle car or starving to death or otherwise having their human rights violated. None of these things are mutually exclusive. You can be upset about political situations in this country and still have the perspective on how much less important baseball is, while still being shitty about the Astros cheating. No one is putting it ahead of actual life or death situations here.
October 21, 20205 yr Taunting for the most case is harmless albeit silly. I used to taunt my cub fans until they got good, now I cant really say much as they have strung together more consectutive playoff appearances than we can ever dream of
October 22, 20205 yr Author 4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: None of these things are mutually exclusive. You can be upset about political situations in this country and still have the perspective on how much less important baseball is, while still being shitty about the Astros cheating. No one is putting it ahead of actual life or death situations here. Yea I mean if we applied "it's just a game" why get upset or show emotion about any of this ? Why have a message board. Why the outcry about Rickey ? Everyone just shut up . It's just a game.
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