June 23, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, chw42 said: Honestly, I don't see how we can beat Atlanta in a deal for Gobert if they're willing to give up both Capella and Collins. A Gobert and Young pairing would make Atlanta a pretty damn good team since their defense is their biggest weakness and they have a lot of perimeter shooting. So they don't need to worry about spacing quite as much with Gobert in their lineup. If Atlanta doesn't see it that way, I can see how there might not be a ton of good suitors for Gobert and his contract. I'd have to think Williams would be involved. But I think if the Bulls are willing to wait it out, they can probably get him for Vuc, Coby, Green, and some combination of the 18th or Portland pick. Portland picking up Jerami Grant for almost nothing probably means the pick conveys in the next 2 years.
June 23, 20223 yr Draft Day. Will Gobert be a Bull tonight? Or is Vuc on the move(????)? Do they sell high on Bust Williams before the league gets wise (wishful thinking I know)? Really hoping AK has something up his sleeve to reshape the front court and make this team a real contender. Running it back just is not good enough.
June 23, 20223 yr 37 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Draft Day. Will Gobert be a Bull tonight? Or is Vuc on the move(????)? Do they sell high on Bust Williams before the league gets wise (wishful thinking I know)? Really hoping AK has something up his sleeve to reshape the front court and make this team a real contender. Running it back just is not good enough. I read this as "Brian Williams" and was very intrigued as to how the retired NBC anchor played into the Bulls front office plans.
June 23, 20223 yr Author To some extent I find bulls offseason lead ups a bit boring because I don't quite believe any chatter. I assume stuff will happen. I hope good. We need shooting galore. But we also need health. Williams really hasn't shown much, but he really is young and had too many starts and stops. He's on a different timeline though, good bait.
June 23, 20223 yr I think this is where AK and company make their noise. Draft day is where they really do work.
June 23, 20223 yr With the kryie stuff does KD all of a sudden become an option for Bulls (if kryie goes).
June 23, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: With the kryie stuff does KD all of a sudden become an option for Bulls (if kryie goes). What would that trade even look like? KD for DeRozan, Vucevic, and all the draft picks we can give?
June 23, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, chw42 said: What would that trade even look like? KD for DeRozan, Vucevic, and all the draft picks we can give? Matching salary would be as tough as matching value IMO.
June 23, 20223 yr 43 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Say no to Gobert, trade up 5 spots or so for Mark Williams. Williams is a plug and play defender, but he's probably about as useful as Tony Bradley is offensively in a half court set right now. Gobert, with all his faults in his offensive game, is at least good in pick and roll and can get you offensive boards. It's why he's been considered a neutral value offensive player all these years despite him being an old school NBA center.
June 24, 20223 yr This is a very Patrick Williams-esque pick. He didn't put up the numbers but the talent is there. I don't hate it, but not necessarily where I woulda went. You can trade rookies in the NBA right?
June 24, 20223 yr Have no issue with the pick. Like his athleticism and intangibles and we will see if he can develop a better offensive game in time. But I think he has a solid floor with some upside.
June 24, 20223 yr Author I’m not banking on Williams after what he’s showed, but he is still 2 years younger than dosunmu and lost a year basically. WCJ also looked passive and a baby and in Orlando definitely looks more the version the bulls wanted when they drafted. Took 3 years and really 4. but maybe it never happens. The low usage rate always being referred to as unselfish annoys me. Some times your team needs you to step up.
June 24, 20223 yr I'm really hoping DDR unlocks Williams. The game is there, he just needs to be more assertive. There's a picture on the interwebs of Dalen playing with KD which is mildly interesting. Idk what the circumstances were.
June 25, 20223 yr If I'm the Bulls, I'd go after Ayton but I'm not sure they can compete with the packages that Detroit and Atlanta can offer.
June 27, 20223 yr Is Kyrie really dumb enough to walk away from $30 million to go play for the Lakers?
June 27, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, chw42 said: Is Kyrie really dumb enough to walk away from $30 million to go play for the Lakers? Man, the NBA is my favorite reality TV drama.
June 27, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Quin said: Man, the NBA is my favorite reality TV drama. I like how Lakers fans thought DeRozan was going to take the MLE to play for them last year, but money won out over him going back home. You'd think the same would happen in this Kyrie situation and this is all a bluff to get the Nets to trade him, but Kyrie is crazy and stupid, so you never know.
June 27, 20223 yr Author 2 hours ago, chw42 said: I like how Lakers fans thought DeRozan was going to take the MLE to play for them last year, but money won out over him going back home. You'd think the same would happen in this Kyrie situation and this is all a bluff to get the Nets to trade him, but Kyrie is crazy and stupid, so you never know. Also it’s the lakers. This shit works out for them all the time. No org deserved a trophy less than they did in 2020. They were dysfunctional and dead in the water. Then Lebron left Cleveland for them. Then AD forced his way there.
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