ron883 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Weird how a guy people all don't like is ending up at peoples weddings and still socializing with a ton of guys on the Sox during ST Hendricks was on The Score recently and mentioned how they have a group that gets dinners together regularly. Madrigal is part of that group still, despite getting traded. Doesn't fit the narrative we have heard here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 So Henzman sucks? VV isn't looking so bad right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, ron883 said: Hendricks was on The Score recently and mentioned how they have a group that gets dinners together regularly. Madrigal is part of that group still, despite getting traded. Doesn't fit the narrative we have heard here. What a shocker 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 So Henzman, huh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Hope this was not some kind of showcase for Henzmen. He clearly sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, maxjusttyped said: What a shocker 🙂 There were definitely some teammates that didn’t like him, but more importantly, the front office and coaching staff didn’t like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, maxjusttyped said: What a shocker 🙂 Lol, I just saw you made the exact post in this thread. We must have heard the same interview. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, quickman said: Hope this was not some kind of showcase for Henzmen. He clearly sucks. Only those of showcase would be for an Independent League. He’s a non-prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Only those of showcase would be for an Independent League. He’s a non-prospect. That said he was our fourth round pick at one time . But it’s the Sox they don’t pick very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, quickman said: Hope this was not some kind of showcase for Henzmen. He clearly sucks. He is filling pitches to get to the next scheduled guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, fathom said: There were definitely some teammates that didn’t like him, but more importantly, the front office and coaching staff didn’t like him. I don't mean this to be rude, but I am just very skeptical of this narrative. The Sox couldn't acquire Kimbrel without trading from the big league roster, and everything since I think has been a way for people to rationalize a terrible trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, maxjusttyped said: I don't mean this to be rude, but I am just very skeptical of this narrative. The Sox couldn't acquire Kimbrel without trading from the big league roster, and everything since I think has been a way for people to rationalize a terrible trade Harold, myself and a few others had heard they were trying to trade Madrigal for a long time. Everyone said no way...and then it happened. If this was a player that was well-liked throughout whole org, Stoney would have never buried him like he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Hate to be a negative nancy, but I don't think Lincoln Henzman is good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Harold, myself and a few others had heard they were trying to trade Madrigal for a long time. Everyone said no way...and then it happened. If this was a player that was well-liked throughout whole org, Stoney would have never buried him like he did. So, then, they made an evaluation error with him. Whether it was the decision to draft Madrigal or the decision to trade him, that's not really a conversation I'm interested in having right now. But the narrative he was traded in large part because people didn't like him personally isn't something I buy. This is the same organization that employed AJP for like a decade and gave Grandal the biggest contract in franchise history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said: So, then, they made an evaluation error with him. Whether it was the decision to draft Madrigal or the decision to trade him, that's not really a conversation I'm interested in having right now. But the narrative he was traded in large part because people didn't like him personally isn't something I buy. This is the same organization that employed AJP for like a decade and gave Grandal the biggest contract in franchise history. He was traded more cause the front office realized quickly he wasn’t the player they thought they were getting. The personality stuff was just one aspect of it. I’m sure if he had 70 speed and defense, they could have dealt with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, fathom said: He was traded more cause the front office realized quickly he wasn’t the player they thought they were getting. The personality stuff was just one aspect of it. I’m sure if he had 70 speed and defense, they could have dealt with it. He was 3rd amongst AL 2B in fWAR when he got hurt. Madrigal is a good player but we've had this conversation a million times already. I don't think his defense was nearly as bad as the narrative suggests. People were overreacting to a few bad plays and not allowing him the same patience we do with most young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, fathom said: He was traded more cause the front office realized quickly he wasn’t the player they thought they were getting. The personality stuff was just one aspect of it. I’m sure if he had 70 speed and defense, they could have dealt with it. The Sox not knowing how fast he was when they drafted him makes no sense. You're clocking kids home to first, home to second, and first to third when scouting them since they're 15 years old. It's not as if he lost speed. You're also clocking them 1st to 2nd, both jump and time. This narrative that somehow a team could be getting a player who actually isn't as fast as they assumed just doesn't make sense. You want to argue the glove had some challenges with the speed of the game they didn't expect, I could buy that. The speed though, no chance they were shocked by a guy running the same times he has been running for years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Ciuffo is at least looking the part defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Nice throw at C. Also the keeping the tag thing on is now a bigger deal with replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Hi Mom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Eloy finally takes one over the fence in LF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Great things happen when Eloy pulls the ball in the air 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 eloy's gonna mess around and hit 50 homers this year, isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 To add to that, Luis is hitting like he's ready for the season to begin... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Ian Happ has some impressive raw power good lord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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