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fathom Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, chw42 said: Sounds like this is a Madrigal-esque tear. It honestly looked similar too. The strength and conditioning team for the Sox is a joke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogosox1959 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 MLBTR update: Michael Conforto Undergoes Season-Ending Shoulder Surgery By Mark Polishuk | April 23, 2022 at 10:28pm CDT Michael Conforto underwent surgery on his right shoulder earlier this week, the New York Post’s Jon Heyman reports (via Twitter). Conforto will be sidelined for the entire 2022 season but is expected to be ready for Spring Training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Flash said: It was a hypothetical I posited prior to start of '21 season and this Board threw up all over it. Some of the comments in defense of Eloy were hysterical. The majority of posters here have consistently overvalued Eloy from day one, wouldn't surprise me that some here still do. And once again we are in lock step. I sent a PM to @fathom a while ago explaining my theory on Eloy. If I remember right I always thought it would be his back that gave him problems and that he would never consistently pull the ball. Edited April 24, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) I wish Eloy a speedy recovery and success. However at this point, he is a bust until further notice. He is struggling to stay healthy and has been inconsistent since his rookie year. Edited April 24, 2022 by SonofaRoache 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Over the last 24 days, the Sox have had injuries to the following: Crochet, Lynn, Giolito, Vaughn, Robert, Moncada, Harrison, Eloy, Pollock This is insane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, fathom said: Over the last 24 days, the Sox have had injuries to the following: Crochet, Lynn, Giolito, Vaughn, Robert, Moncada, Harrison, Eloy, Pollock This is insane Injury prone players get......injured. Crochet was bound to happen. Lynn is getting old and is out of shape. Gio situation was minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So it's likely Grade 3? If all goes well, it puts him back at the All Star break. Madrigal's injury happened in June and would have sidelined him for the rest of the year anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, hi8is said: Paging @ptatc … code yellow again…. Repeat… code fucking yellow. Sorry, out of town. From all I've read its looking like a 6-8 week type injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 3 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Gavin Sheets earns another life. Man. Eloy. What a kick to the nuts. Not even surprising. Hurts I was kind of thinking that his play has earned him playing time but Vaughn should be the regular in LF full time now just as you always wanted and Sheets is going to DH more against RHP . You just better hope that the last few days when Vaughn collided with infielders doesn't become habitual. If that was Eloy we never would've heard the end of it. With Vaughn it's mostly crickets. I have no problem with people liking Vaughn, he's a very likable player. But usually liking him translates into people disliking Sheets more than is necessary. Sheets can't track down a flyball in the gap and it's Sheets sucks. Sheets isn't given the same rope in the OF that Vaughn is given. Granted Vaughn played LF fairly well last year and the sample size so far is too small to make much of it but Vaughn and Sheets are both racking up negative defensive WAR right now. We need Sheets LH bat whether or not people want to admit it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said: So it's likely Grade 3? If all goes well, it puts him back at the All Star break. Madrigal's injury happened in June and would have sidelined him for the rest of the year anyways. Probably more grade 2 unless they start saying surgery is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, ptatc said: Probably more grade 2 unless they start saying surgery is possible. Surgery is likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, ptatc said: Probably more grade 2 unless they start saying surgery is possible. Grade 2 wouldn't be terrible. Is the time frame still around 2 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, fathom said: Surgery is likely Sorry didn't see that report. It would be a grade 3 then. Did they say if it was high or low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: Probably more grade 2 unless they start saying surgery is possible. Not sure who this guy is, but he’s saying he’s heard surgery. If surgery is required, is he out for the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Sambuca said: Not sure who this guy is, but he’s saying he’s heard surgery. If surgery is required, is he out for the season? Madrigal tore his in June and he was out until at least November. So if it's anywhere near as bad as his, he's done until at least September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sambuca said: Not sure who this guy is, but he’s saying he’s heard surgery. If surgery is required, is he out for the season? Only the dad of one of the best receivers ever and a Minnesota sports reporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, gogosox1959 said: MLBTR update: Michael Conforto Undergoes Season-Ending Shoulder Surgery By Mark Polishuk | April 23, 2022 at 10:28pm CDT Michael Conforto underwent surgery on his right shoulder earlier this week, the New York Post’s Jon Heyman reports (via Twitter). Conforto will be sidelined for the entire 2022 season but is expected to be ready for Spring Training How badly did he fuck up his shoulder? This man just cost himself a ton of money. Nobody will give him anything but a 1 or 2 year deal next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sambuca said: Not sure who this guy is, but he’s saying he’s heard surgery. If surgery is required, is he out for the season? Surgery is odd and not done very often. If its a case like Madrigal where is comes off the bone, its done. Makes a big difference if it's at one of the attachment or in the midsubstance of the muscle. Edited April 24, 2022 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: How badly did he fuck up his shoulder? This man just cost himself a ton of money. Nobody will give him anything but a 1 or 2 year deal next year. Depends on the surgery. A SLAP won't change much. A rotator cuff issue will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Only the dad of one of the best receivers ever and a Minnesota sports reporter I apologize for not assuming he was Larry Fitzgerald’s dad, or researching to find out myself. I was more concerned with Eloy’s hamstring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I think we need to be real here. If Eloy was gonna go through the motions and be what he was in 2021, he is extremely replaceable. He doesn't play defense. If he doesn't post an OPS above .850, his value really isn't anything to write home about. Him getting injured again really sucks and it really hinders his development. But until he takes the next step and proves himself to be the hitter he was touted as, he is a bust and I don't think we can rely on him to be a part of the core in the future. Eloy was always gonna need to be a .900+ OPS guy to be considered a star. He simply just does not do anything else well. Him turning into a huge ground ball hitter really neglects his ability to hit the ball hard. Until he can fix that and stay healthy, you really can't count on him. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sambuca said: I apologize for not assuming he was Larry Fitzgerald’s dad, or researching to find out myself. I was more concerned with Eloy’s hamstring. I know, I was actually joking about it because when his son played, I think the broadcasters were legally required to mention his dad was a sports reporter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: I think we need to be real here. If Eloy was gonna go through the motions and be what he was in 2021, he is extremely replaceable. He doesn't play defense. If he doesn't post an OPS above .850, his value really isn't anything to write home about. Him getting injured again really sucks and it really hinders his development. But until he takes the next step and proves himself to be the hitter he was touted as, he is a bust and I don't think we can rely on him to be a part of the core in the future. Eloy was always gonna need to be a .900+ OPS guy to be considered a star. He simply just does not do anything else well. Him turning into a huge ground ball hitter really neglects his ability to hit the ball hard. Until he can fix that and stay healthy, you really can't count on him. Thank god Cease looks good. Eloy needs a change of scenery to a place like Toronto. I can’t see how the Sox ever count on him again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Thank god Cease looks good. Eloy needs a change of scenery to a place like Toronto. I can’t see how the Sox ever count on him again. He's not gonna have a lot of trade value since he starts making a decent amount of money stating next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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