2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Engel is 4 for his last 30 and has looked brutal at the plate.  The other three are hitting it pretty well tho.  

I trust you more than myself… as I’ve been passively watching lately and didn’t rely on stats for my statement. That said, whoever was writing off the bottom 4 was shortsighted IMO. Time will tell… 

Could easily see us having a 1 run offensive performance as a 6 run showing.

Looking forward to the game, which is something I haven’t been able to say for about a month.

If Cease can be Cease and get 12 K’s we should be fine. HOPEFULLY. ??

1 minute ago, AJ'S Cousin said:

Maybe your right, but I think he’s better in right than Vaughn. 

Probably.  But I think the Sox have signaled their intentions at this point.  

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

Probably.  But I think the Sox have signaled their intentions at this point.  

Agree

2 minutes ago, hi8is said:

I trust you more than myself… as I’ve been passively watching lately and didn’t rely on stats for my statement. That said, whoever was writing off the bottom 4 was shortsighted IMO. Time will tell… 

Could easily see us having a 1 run offensive performance as a 6 run showing.

Looking forward to the game, which is something I haven’t been able to say for about a month.

Good to see the disheartened are  getting hoovered  back in.  Just split the next 2 and get 3/4 from Bal and a 5-2 week would be pretty great.  

26 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Yeah, sorta done watching Engel right now.  I like him overall, but he's been rough lately.  Not really sure what purpose Haseley serves if he isn't going to play against RHP. 

Jake is just 2/15 since returning from the IL.  I am fine with him getting the night off.  

Burger has also made 3 errors at 3rd in his last 5 games there, and 4 in his 9 played at 3rd.  If he plays at all, it needs to be DH.

For all of you that remember, showing my  age again,  we need  a Roland Hemond type of GM, ONE WITH BALLS!!!

Edited June 21, 20223 yr by AJ'S Cousin

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

Burger has also made 3 errors at 3rd in his last 5 games there, and 4 in his 9 played at 3rd.  If he plays at all, it needs to be DH.

Totally agreed.  I am not in the play Burger at 3B camp.  He's brutal over there.  It should be a no go against good teams; fine mixing him in there a time or two against Baltimore this weekend.    

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

Good to see the disheartened are  getting hoovered  back in.  Just split the next 2 and get 3/4 from Bal and a 5-2 week would be pretty great.  

Yea, my stance has long been that we can’t evaluate this team until they get healthier and had pegged 2 weeks after Lynn’s return as my personal timeline for determining who the 2022 White Sox might be.

That said, regardless of what happens - fuck Tony.

9 minutes ago, AJ'S Cousin said:

Burger should be the DH and Vaughn in left and Pollock in Right 

AJ has no arm.

Not a right fielder IMO

 

1 minute ago, Grindersrule said:

AJ has no arm.

Not a right fielder IMO

 

Agree but he’s an outfielder by trade. And much faster at getting to a ball down the line 

And PS, I was not happy with Robert’s lackadaisical play on that single that turned into a double that could of cost us.  I’m sure and hope the the useless TLR brought it up to him 

Pollock has a 593 OPS against RHP and almost 1000 against lefties.  Hahn mission a failure in that regard.

Abreu and Robert have been decent but still mid to low 700’s against RHP…726 for Luis and that obviously has to tick up to the 750-775 range.

Vaughn 877 vs. 918 is the obvious major improvement.

Burger 643 vs. 1.169 even more extreme than Pollock.

 

Brandon Drury, fwiw, is this year’s Cesar Hernandez/Adam Frazier candidate. Near 800 against righties and 1000 against lefties.

Edited June 21, 20223 yr by caulfield12

26 minutes ago, ScooterMcGuire said:

 

I would definitely pinch hit Leury to bunt in the game winning run. Where am I?

4 minutes ago, AJ'S Cousin said:

And PS, I was not happy with Robert’s lackadaisical play on that single that turned into a double that could of cost us.  I’m sure and hope the the useless TLR brought it up to him 

Bold of you to assume that Tony did anything about it, because it has happened before this year, even specifically with Robert (and others) and I have yet to see a visible consequence.

6 minutes ago, AJ'S Cousin said:

Agree but he’s an outfielder by trade. And much faster at getting to a ball down the line 

Even if he gets to that ball to cut it off in the corner…it’s a double.  Maybe he prevents a few triples.  But then Jimenez in LF is going to undermine the defense more than enough to offset any advantage gained.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

Bold of you to assume that Tony did anything about it, because it has happened before this year, even specifically with Robert (and others) and I have yet to see a visible consequence.

That’s why I called him useless. ? 

Is TLR’s deal over this year or does it have one more year, I forgot if it was a 2 or 3 year deal. 

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Bold of you to assume that Tony did anything about it, because it has happened before this year, even specifically with Robert (and others) and I have yet to see a visible consequence.

Winning the Gold Glove so early in his career didn’t help.

He needs a defensive specialist like Rusty Kuntz in KC that would demand the players’ attention and respect…with that history of turning guys like Gordon, Cain and Dyson into defensive studs.

Boston isn’t that guy.

We need those young guys like Moncada and Robert working hard or even harder than anyone else…to set an example for the rest of the team.  If Abreu can’t get through to them, another approach is needed.

1 minute ago, AJ'S Cousin said:

Is TLR’s deal over this year or does it have one more year, I forgot if it was a 2 or 3 year deal. 

Through at least 2023 at $3.75 million.

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

Winning the Gold Glove so early in his career didn’t help.

He needs a defensive specialist like Rusty Kuntz in KC that would demand the players’ attention and respect…with that history of turning guys like Gordon, Cain and Dyson into defensive studs.

Boston isn’t that guy.

We need those young guys like Moncada and Robert working hard or even harder than anyone else…to set an example for the rest of the team.  If Abreu can’t get through to them, another approach is needed.

TBH, my guess is Tony told them to throttle it down to avoid injuries.  It makes more sense to me than he is just willfully ignoring that players are being lazy.

13 minutes ago, AJ'S Cousin said:

Is TLR’s deal over this year or does it have one more year, I forgot if it was a 2 or 3 year deal. 

He's the manager forever.

1 hour ago, Tnetennba said:

Yikes.  Gotta hope the top 5 get it done.

All season, I love these posts.

As if the Sox are flooded in formidable options to complete a line up these days, or the entire season so far.

 

41 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Good to see the disheartened are  getting hoovered  back in.  Just split the next 2 and get 3/4 from Bal and a 5-2 week would be pretty great.  

Baltimore has been playing MUCH better the last 4-6 weeks.  They are no longer pushovers like DET.  That also comes from playing nearly half the season against four playoff contenders in the East.  Have won 8 of their last 14, fwiw.

RS/RA they are -39.  White Sox -38.

23 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

TBH, my guess is Tony told them to throttle it down to avoid injuries.  It makes more sense to me than he is just willfully ignoring that players are being lazy.

Is going at 75-85% actually protecting them, though?  Look at the recent Grandal and Moncada injuries.  

One thing it does lead to is that getting into the scouting report that you run run run on the Sox outfielders other than Engel until they start cutting down runners with some consistency.

Fwiw, the Eloy injury was obviously flukey, like Machado having a similar play over the weekend where the 1B actually blocked his path coming over into foul territory.