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Cards acquire Quintana

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So much for that idea

 

Hahn is sleeping at his desk. Waiting for this deadline to pass.

5 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Hahn is sleeping at his desk. Waiting for this deadline to pass.

He's probably not sleeping at his desk. Let's wait to see if they are able to make any moves.

They will probably do something because they are fortunate to be a .500 team playing in a bad division and only 2 games out. In most seasons, this wouldn't be a team I would be willing to make any significant moves - it's really up to the talent on this roster to live up to their hype. Does adding a decent starter like Quintana really change their fortunes? He could have helped, but it probably doesn't change the White Sox path for this season without their top heavy talent playing the way they were projected. 

15 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Hahn is sleeping at his desk. Waiting for this deadline to pass.

I mean, not too sure what people were expecting after this past offseason

Just now, ScooterMcGuire said:

I mean, not too sure what people were expecting after this past offseason

Fair point. They didn't exactly treat the off-season with much urgency to make meaningful upgrades at 2B, RF or to replace Rodon. They do like spending on their bullpen though.

Again, not to say they won't make a meaningful move by tomorrow. We'll see.

Just now, spiderman said:

Fair point. They didn't exactly treat the off-season with much urgency to make meaningful upgrades at 2B, RF or to replace Rodon. They do like spending on their bullpen though.

Again, not to say they won't make a meaningful move by tomorrow. We'll see.

I would be very surprised if they did anything newsworthy. 

1 minute ago, ScooterMcGuire said:

I would be very surprised if they did anything newsworthy. 

I would be surprised by any significant moves also. I would expect more patch work type moves than anything that is significant.  

37 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Hahn is sleeping at his desk. Waiting for this deadline to pass.

They aren't complete dumbies. They know this team isn't going to compete. They also don't have many assets to sell. 

35 minutes ago, ScooterMcGuire said:

I would be very surprised if they did anything newsworthy. 

I’d be straight up shocked.

Curious if true?

Jose Quintana and righty Chris Stratton from the Pirates. In return, the Pirates are receiving righty Johan Oviedo and minor league third baseman Malcolm Nunez.

Anyone have any insight on the return?

15 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Jose Quintana and righty Chris Stratton from the Pirates. In return, the Pirates are receiving righty Johan Oviedo and minor league third baseman Malcolm Nunez.

Anyone have any insight on the return?

Malcolm Nunez (AA) is now 11th on the Pirates Top 30 prospects. Oviedo is a 24 year old middle reliever, pitched well this season, had brief callups during age 22/23 seasons.

The White Sox equivalent would be perhaps Andrew Dalquist and Davis Martin.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/pirates/

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/oviedjo01.shtml

Edited by South Side Hit Men

9 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Jose Quintana and righty Chris Stratton from the Pirates. In return, the Pirates are receiving righty Johan Oviedo and minor league third baseman Malcolm Nunez.

Anyone have any insight on the return?

Nothing special. We probably could have beat it if we wanted to, especially if the trade didn't include Stratton. Oviedo is 24 and no longer a prospect. Nunez is 21 and in AA. I'm guessing the Pirates probably wanted Kelley or maybe even Vera and Hahn said no. Which is probably the smart move. 

Edited by chw42

Using fangraphs' ratings, and aside from the reliever side of this deal, it would be like trading Sosa for Quintana.

The Cards farm was evaluated in July and the Sox in April.

Lol Hahn coming to grips with what he has wrought. I’m sure his budget has not increased, he has no farm to sell, and his team has too many issues to prioritize.

Just at home, coddling his many degrees.

Q signed for $2 million. RH paid VV $3 million. The old Nightengale tweet makes me laugh. The Sox were looking for Robbie Ray and Marcus Semien, yet wound up with VV and Big Energy.

Edited by Dick Allen

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Q signed for $2 million. RH paid VV $3 million. The old Nightengale tweet makes me laugh. The Sox were looking for Robbie Ray and Marcus Semien, yet wound up with VV and Big Energy.

They offered Semien a $100M contract.  He signed a $175M contract.

1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They offered Semien a $100M contract.  He signed a $175M contract.

For some reason, KW thinks players may be willing to take tens of millions less to play for a team mired in mediocrity. 

8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

For some reason, KW thinks players may be willing to take tens of millions less to play for a team mired in mediocrity. 

They try yo jump the market with a low ball offer thinking guys will panic.  It "worked" with Grandal because as we all can see he had reason to panic.  

52 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

They try yo jump the market with a low ball offer thinking guys will panic.  It "worked" with Grandal because as we all can see he had reason to panic.  

They don't seem to low ball the offers to relief pitchers though.

9 hours ago, Tnetennba said:

Curious if true?

Screw that. I'm not trading anyone of significance to rent Jose Quintana for a few months. 

2 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:

Screw that. I'm not trading anyone of significance to rent Jose Quintana for a few months. 

How do you "match" a trade offer?? :huh:

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