MLB rosters aren’t constructed in a vacuum. A decision on one player can have an impact on another player. A free agent signing can make keeping another player a moot point and so forth.

This is simply a “thought exercise”, nothing more but IF rosters were constructed in a vacuum these are the players I’d like to see the Sox get rid of, simply never to appear in a Sox uniform in a game again or in some cases appearing for the first time.

Again simply based on individuals I’d be curious who you’d like to see removed from the 40 man roster and sent away by any means.

Here would be my choices:

Yoan Aybar

Jason Bilous

Kyle Crick

Jake Diekman

Joe Kelly

Nicholas Padilla

Jose Ruiz

Bennett Sousa

Vince Velasquez

Yasmani Grandal

Leury Garcia

Josh Harrison

Adam Engel

Adam Haseley

Mark Payton

I also wouldn’t object to these guys either:

Aaron Bummer

Matt Foster

Kendall Graveman

A.J. Pollock

Gavin Sheets

Edited September 26, 20223 yr by Lip Man 1

So many bad contracts i dont even know where to start. A wet dream would be to see the expensive deadweight like Leury gone, but its not going to happen especially after biting the bullet on Keuchel and missing out on playoff revenue. 

I just went ahead and looked at the payroll for next season and it made me grab a glass of whiskey. We have 75 million dollars guaranteed to players over 32 years old for next season. I honestly feel lost as to where to even start, especially with missing out on the playoffs money.

Grandal, Leury, Graveman, Moncada need to go. Yoan is going to cost this team an arm and a leg next season and beyond. It wont happen however

Keep Pitchers: Bummer, Cease, Crick, Crochet, Cueto, Giolito, Kopech, Lambert, Lopez.

Keep Hitters: Abreu*, Mendick, Robert, Vaughn, Zavala.

* -  (Or sign within organization in another role (FO, Coach, Scouting, whatever he wants to do).

Sell Pitchers: Aybar, Banks, Bilous, Diekman, Foster, Graveman, Hendriks, Kelly, Lynn, Martin, Padilla, Ruiz, Sousa, Stiever, Velasquez

Sell Hitters: Anderson, Andrus, Burger, Engel, Garcia, Gonzalez, Grandal, Harrison, Haseley, Jimenez, Moncada, Payton, Perez, Pollock, Sheets, Sosa,

Too bad Kenny couldn't have done this to Jerry.

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Keep Pitchers: Bummer, Cease, Crick, Crochet, Cueto, Giolito, Kopech, Lambert, Lopez.

Keep Hitters: Abreu*, Mendick, Robert, Vaughn, Zavala.

* -  (Or sign within organization in another role (FO, Coach, Scouting, whatever he wants to do).

Sell Pitchers: Aybar, Banks, Bilous, Diekman, Foster, Graveman, Hendriks, Kelly, Lynn, Martin, Padilla, Ruiz, Sousa, Stiever, Velasquez

Sell Hitters: Anderson, Andrus, Burger, Engel, Garcia, Gonzalez, Grandal, Harrison, Haseley, Jimenez, Moncada, Payton, Perez, Pollock, Sheets, Sosa,

Too bad Kenny couldn't have done this to Jerry.

 

 

 

They need the equivalent of the 2004-05 cycle, meaning we’ve already added Contreras/Garcia and now jettisoning Valentin, Ordonez and Carlos Lee. 

Just now, caulfield12 said:

They need the equivalent of the 2004-05 cycle, meaning we’ve already added Contreras/Garcia and now jettisoning Valentin, Ordonez and Carlos Lee. 

The pitching list also demonstrates or validates the #26-30 minor league system rankings of the past couple of seasons.

If you think we need an outfielder, then you aren’t a real White Sox fan.

7 hours ago, hi8is said:

If you think we need an outfielder, then you aren’t a real White Sox fan.

Found Steve Stone's burner account.

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

Found Steve Stone's burner account.

Also Tony's burner account. 

Just now, chw42 said:

Also Tony's burner account. 

Was that who made the comment? I can't remember between the 2 making idiotic comments.

12 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Was that who made the comment? I can't remember between the 2 making idiotic comments.

It was Tony in ST right before Hahn acquired Haseley and Pollock lol

Dickman, Kelly, Grandal, and Graveman are the most annoying.  All of them are overpaid and worthless.

18 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Dickman, Kelly, Grandal, and Graveman are the most annoying.  All of them are overpaid and worthless.

Diekman and Graveman folded like lawn chairs this past week. 

9 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Keep Pitchers: Bummer, Cease, Crick, Crochet, Cueto, Giolito, Kopech, Lambert, Lopez.

Keep Hitters: Abreu*, Mendick, Robert, Vaughn, Zavala.

* -  (Or sign within organization in another role (FO, Coach, Scouting, whatever he wants to do).

Sell Pitchers: Aybar, Banks, Bilous, Diekman, Foster, Graveman, Hendriks, Kelly, Lynn, Martin, Padilla, Ruiz, Sousa, Stiever, Velasquez

Sell Hitters: Anderson, Andrus, Burger, Engel, Garcia, Gonzalez, Grandal, Harrison, Haseley, Jimenez, Moncada, Payton, Perez, Pollock, Sheets, Sosa,

Too bad Kenny couldn't have done this to Jerry.

 

 

 

 

9 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Keep Pitchers: Bummer, Cease, Crick, Crochet, Cueto, Giolito, Kopech, Lambert, Lopez.

Keep Hitters: Abreu*, Mendick, Robert, Vaughn, Zavala.

* -  (Or sign within organization in another role (FO, Coach, Scouting, whatever he wants to do).

Sell Pitchers: Aybar, Banks, Bilous, Diekman, Foster, Graveman, Hendriks, Kelly, Lynn, Martin, Padilla, Ruiz, Sousa, Stiever, Velasquez

Sell Hitters: Anderson, Andrus, Burger, Engel, Garcia, Gonzalez, Grandal, Harrison, Haseley, Jimenez, Moncada, Payton, Perez, Pollock, Sheets, Sosa,

Too bad Kenny couldn't have done this to Jerry.

 

 

 

I like and agree with this list except on two things. 

1. Keep Abreu but not a a player. Give him some important asst. director position of scouting for the international market. With his name and background he could be huge especially helping to recruit the top Cuban players. I really think it's time to give Vaughn the reigns to first base daily. I think his hitting will actually improve just knowing he doesn't have the pressure of playing the corner outfields. 

2. Unless the haul of prospects back for a Eloy Jimenez trade was too much to pass up, I would not want to get rid of Eloy. His potential is too great to risk seeing him explode at another team. I think we learned if he is a DH and with a strong manager and batting coach, he could be a big time HR/RBI producer. 

 

you could probably find a taker on Eloy tbh, just sell him as a DH

19 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Diekman and Graveman folded like lawn chairs this past week. 

Again, I ask...who are the talent evaluators?  

On 9/25/2022 at 10:55 PM, Lip Man 1 said:

MLB rosters aren’t constructed in a vacuum. A decision on one player can have an impact on another player. A free agent signing can make keeping another player a moot point and so forth.

This is simply a “thought exercise”, nothing more but IF rosters were constructed in a vacuum these are the players I’d like to see the Sox get rid of, simply never to appear in a Sox uniform in a game again or in some cases appearing for the first time.

Again simply based on individuals I’d be curious who you’d like to see removed from the 40 man roster and sent away by any means.

 

Yasmani Grandal

Aaron Bummer

Matt Foster

Kendall Graveman

Gavin Sheets

Foster and Sheets have options, so no reason to dump them. Gonna be nearly impossible to sign or trade for a quality catcher so might as well take a chance that Yaz rebounds. Bummer and Graveman are better than what you're going to get to replace them. No objections to the others you listed.

1 hour ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Foster and Sheets have options, so no reason to dump them. Gonna be nearly impossible to sign or trade for a quality catcher so might as well take a chance that Yaz rebounds. Bummer and Graveman are better than what you're going to get to replace them. No objections to the others you listed.

There are so few catchers in the league that provide offense these days, just get 2 cheap guys that are + defensively and allocate the $'s elsewhere.