Hahaha maybe all the talk or not spending is 4D chess trying to hide the Judge talks ???????

So according to Bowden, Judge’s market is 4 teams?

4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So according to Bowden, Judge’s market is 4 teams?

Or JR leaked this to him, and now Hahn will say "we were in the market for Judge"

21 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I think the Machado/Harper stuff has turned the entire fanbase into cynics. 

I think the Reinsdorf / Hahn / Sox stuff has turned the entire fanbase into cynics.

1 minute ago, JoeC said:

Or JR leaked this to him, and now Hahn will say "we were in the market for Judge"

Had a seat at the table…. 

Just now, Vote4Pedro said:

Had a seat at the table…. 

Ah yes - that's the asinine quote I was looking for.

Live look of RH kicking the tires on AJ. 

18 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said:

Hahaha maybe all the talk or not spending is 4D chess trying to hide the Judge talks ???????

It would certainly insulate against losing Jose Abreu.

1 hour ago, bmags said:

This is truly the funniest thing I've ever read, I laughed so hard my wife asked if I was ok 2 floors from me:

https://theathletic.com/3772405/2022/11/10/aaron-judge-free-agency-teams-ranking/

let the gifs fly

This has to be a joke!

Let me just say this outloud.  Whoever pays Judge $300 million is going to regret it.  This is a guy who has had a lot of problems staying healthy, and is probably a DH for a large portion of his deal.

5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Let me just say this outloud.  Whoever pays Judge $300 million is going to regret it.  This is a guy who has had a lot of problems staying healthy, and is probably a DH for a large portion of his deal.

His deal is going to be way north of 300 million more than likely. Wasn’t the Yankees offering 300+ and he was turning it down?

2 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said:

His deal is going to be way north of 300 million more than likely. Wasn’t the Yankees offering 300+ and he was turning it down?

He turned down $200 million to start the season IIRC.

wdit: https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1512451052855078924?s=46&t=7OemjzSwXtzyF0yhQHVlOQ

 

2 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said:

Wasn’t the Yankees offering 300+ and he was turning it down?

More like 200.

3 minutes ago, Vote4Pedro said:

His deal is going to be way north of 300 million more than likely. Wasn’t the Yankees offering 300+ and he was turning it down?

Either way, it will be an instantly bad deal the day it is signed.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

Either way, it will be an instantly bad deal the day it is signed.

If he gives you two 7 WAR seasons in the next 3 years, isn’t that half of what you’re paying for?

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Either way, it will be an instantly bad deal the day it is signed.

I will gladly take Aaron Judge through age 36 and suffer after that.

Especially because baseball is trying to figure s%*# out, so I wouldn't be shocked if the juiced ball returns.

Hahn will low ball him and say they tried.  3yr/$100M sounds about right.  

7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

If he gives you two 7 WAR seasons in the next 3 years, isn’t that half of what you’re paying for?

Sox fans don't have the patience for getting contract output in the front end of a deal, nor the organizational willingness to spend over those bad contracts.

1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said:

I think the Machado/Harper stuff has turned the entire fanbase into cynics. 

I don't think so.  There were still a lot of very delusional people out there these past two off-seasons (post Machado / Harper)  thinking Reinsdorf was going to go all in for free agents. 

 Go see Twitter now.  People still up in arms about the projected payroll (WSD, James, others).  

 

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Sox fans don't have the patience for getting contract output in the front end of a deal, nor the organizational willingness to spend over those bad contracts.

With the White Sox sure, I’m talking about actual franchises there.

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

With the White Sox sure, I’m talking about actual franchises there.

I am not really worried about the other 29 teams, though it will still be a bad deal for a very long time.

Just now, southsider2k5 said:

I am not really worried about the other 29 teams, though it will still be a bad deal for a very long time.

We have plenty of those already.

Pass.

8 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Hahn will low ball him and say they tried.  3yr/$100M sounds about right.  

 

https://twitter.com/soxmach_pnoles/status/1590734059097161728?s=46&t=BFjGE_zP8OeX4wpj_OcRew 
 

the Twitter embed is working about as well for me right now as you’d expect from a company that laid off half its staff but this is rather funny.

Unless the Sox have finally learned some PR - undersell the fans and press. Set expectations low - than come in and surprise.  In all honesty - way smarter than what they did the past 2-3 years where they rised off-season expectations only to sign all the relievers.  

1 hour ago, Quin said:

I will gladly take Aaron Judge through age 36 and suffer after that.

Especially because baseball is trying to figure s%*# out, so I wouldn't be shocked if the juiced ball returns.

I suspect Judge was receiving the benefit of non-humidor balls all year so the MLB could push the HR chase.  When comparing annual HR leaders vs the 2nd place guy, Judge put up a historic variance.  I did the math from 1970-2022, Judge's season represents the biggest variance in that window from HR leader to 2nd place guy, at a whopping 34.78% increase from the 2nd place batter.  Only other instance with a 30% or greater variance was 1989.  Judge is great, but something is fishy about his past season.