caulfield12 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/20/2023 at 11:23 PM, bmags said: You know, I get the people defending it. But whatever, I do think that is a huge red flag. Not to mention the way he left Oklahoma...bringing along teammates and recruits/commits and acting like he was already too big for Flyover Territory, it all left a terrible taste in the mouths of many Sooners fans. He's already worked his way across the entire country from MD/East to So Cal/West. At USC, they turn on you in a heartbeat, first the LA Times then the boosters alumni fanbase...OU and even Texas fans are much more loyal and forgiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 11/17/2023 at 1:36 PM, CentralChamps21 said: It's not all on Parker. Their WR are not good vs man coverage and Hartman has been less than advertised. Also the RB have been awful on blitz pickup. I think you have trouble getting a quality guy to come if you're pulling the trigger on the current guy after one season. Maybe they do but it’s ND, they should be able to get whoever Freeman wants. Maybe since Swarbrick is gone, the new AD will be more willing to spend on coaches. I agree on Hartman and the WRs. The main WRs are mostly freshman, so I expect them to be better going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Mizzou just absolutely embarrassed Arkansas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Roll Wave! One more to the Peach Bowl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Both TEs in tOSU MI game going to have solid pro careers. Interesting that Henderson is already on the bench...but power back much more effective there. Harrison has been a non factor except one highlight reel catch over the shoulder on a quick adjustment. This game and Oregon//Wash working as de facto 1st round playoff games. That leaves Texas and Bama on the outside looking in...along with FSU minus Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Both TEs in tOSU MI game going to have solid pro careers. Interesting that Henderson is already on the bench...but power back much more effective there. Harrison has been a non factor except one highlight reel catch over the shoulder on a quick adjustment. This game and Oregon//Wash working as de facto 1st round playoff games. That leaves Texas and Bama on the outside looking in...along with FSU minus Travis. No way FSU gets left out if they end up 13-0 by beating Florida and Louisville, even without their QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) Would be cool if they held a tournament of Conference Champions, especially since this is the last year before the realignment debacle. Assuming all favorites / higher seeds won their Conference Championship Games. December 9 - Play In Games Game One: #9 Mid-American (Toledo 11-1) at #8 Sun Belt (Troy 10-2) Game Two: #10 Mountain West (Nevada Las Vegas 9-3) at #7 Conference USA (Liberty 12-0) December 16 - Quarterfinals Game Three: Game One Winner at #1 Southeastern (Georgia 12-0) Game Four: #5 Big XII (Texas 11-1) at #4 Atlantic Coast (Florida State 12-0) Game Five: Game Two Winner at #2 Big Ten (Michigan 12-0) Game Six: #6 American Athletic (Tulane 11-1) at #3 Pacific 12 (Washington 12-0) January 1 - Semifinals Bowl Game: Game Three Winner (#1 Georgia 12-0) vs. Game Four Winner (#4 Florida State 12-0) Bowl Game: Game Five Winner (#2 Michigan 12-0) vs. Game Six Winner (#3 Washington 12-0) January 8 - National Championship Edited November 26, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Adjusted to correct rankings using a combination of the latest CFP Poll (#1-#7) and Sagarin (#8-#10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Tulane and Liberty are both ranked higher than UNLV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Pretty sure the Michigan/Iowa point spread is going to be in the 20+ range. When's the last time a P5 league championship game had odds that extreme? Could be the last Iowa team in my lifetime to make it (Kirk Ferentz will have less and less incentive, except financially, to stick it out with his son now cast aside, perhaps coaching the same school 30 years in a row???)...with USC, UCLA (goodbye Chip Kelly), Oregon and Washington coming on board. Somehow Cal and Stanford to the ACC seems even stranger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 5:06 AM, South Side Hit Men said: Would be cool if they held a tournament of Conference Champions, especially since this is the last year before the realignment debacle. Assuming all favorites / higher seeds won their Conference Championship Games. December 9 - Play In Games Game One: #9 Mid-American (Toledo 11-1) at #8 Sun Belt (Troy 10-2) Game Two: #10 Mountain West (Nevada Las Vegas 9-3) at #7 Conference USA (Liberty 12-0) December 16 - Quarterfinals Game Three: Game One Winner at #1 Southeastern (Georgia 12-0) Game Four: #5 Big XII (Texas 11-1) at #4 Atlantic Coast (Florida State 12-0) Game Five: Game Two Winner at #2 Big Ten (Michigan 12-0) Game Six: #6 American Athletic (Tulane 11-1) at #3 Pacific 12 (Washington 12-0) January 1 - Semifinals Bowl Game: Game Three Winner (#1 Georgia 12-0) vs. Game Four Winner (#4 Florida State 12-0) Bowl Game: Game Five Winner (#2 Michigan 12-0) vs. Game Six Winner (#3 Washington 12-0) January 8 - National Championship They need to go back to traditional bowl alignments and quit these playoffs. It's ruined the game. Just vote for a national champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, Texsox said: They need to go back to traditional bowl alignments and quit these playoffs. It's ruined the game. Just vote for a national champion. Like Colorado Michigan? Or was that GaTech shared year? Georgia loses to Bama and likely no SeC team with FSU or Texas taking that spot. SEC really weak non conference results…PAC 12 was true gauntlet this year. Hope at least Wash or Oregon makes it…Washington loss, which feels likely based on recent trends, gums up the works as well. Btw, would have expected A&M to get a better coach with their unlimited resources… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Texsox said: They need to go back to traditional bowl alignments and quit these playoffs. It's ruined the game. Just vote for a national champion. Too late now, but what I thought they should have done is kept the traditional bowl alignments, and then had a 4 team playoff after the bowls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Bowl system sucked ass. Playoffs are so much better 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Texsox said: They need to go back to traditional bowl alignments and quit these playoffs. It's ruined the game. Just vote for a national champion. A neutral rating system rating the top 8 conference champions (Sagarin or another like the MWC is using) would work as well. The current system exists to maximize revenue for Power Conferences (lock in nearly all 12 playoff spots). In a sport like college football, a team shouldn't have to defeat the same team twice (regular season or conference champion + "wild card" playoff spot), which already happened when Alabama beat Louisiana State in 2011 after losing to them in the regular season. It's a possibility this year with the losing SEC Championship team making the playoffs. BCS / CFP Era National Championships by Conference (15) Southeastern 2022 Georgia 2021 Georgia 2020 Alabama 2019 Louisiana State 2017 Alabama 2015 Alabama 2012 Alabama 2011 Alabama 2010 Auburn 2009 Alabama 2008 Florida 2007 Louisiana State 2006 Florida 2003 Louisiana State 1998 Tennessee (4) Atlantic Coast 2018 Clemson 2016 Clemson 2013 Florida State 1999 Florida State (2) Big Ten 2014 The Ohio State University 2002 The Ohio State University (2) Big XII 2005 Texas 2000 Oklahoma (1) Big East 2001 University of Miami (0) Pacific Ten (2004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: Bowl system sucked ass. Playoffs are so much better I agree. I'd love to see college football have a 32 team playoff, almost like basketball. Cut the regular season short. But I also want to see baseball cut back to a 150ish game season and add two rounds of playoffs. But there are traditionalists who want the regular season to "mean something". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 6 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said: Too late now, but what I thought they should have done is kept the traditional bowl alignments, and then had a 4 team playoff after the bowls. Cut two games off the regular season and make it a 8 game playoff. Personally I'd love December Madness with a 32 team playoff. Couple you image the betting possibilities? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Texsox said: Cut two games off the regular season and make it a 8 game playoff. Personally I'd love December Madness with a 32 team playoff. Couple you image the betting possibilities? Too much revenue lost from those 6th or 7th home games from those P5 conference teams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Too much revenue lost from those 6th or 7th home games from those P5 conference teams... They would have a playoff game or two to offset it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 39 minutes ago, Texsox said: They would have a playoff game or two to offset it. 12-16 seems the maximum feasible for NCAA...and they'd have to give 4 byes...so you would have quarterfinals, quarterfinals winners vs. 4 bye teams, semi-finals and finals, requiring a full four weekends of play on top of a 10-11 game schedule. Still don't see them going back down below 11 games per season after pushing for years to get it up to 12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) On 11/28/2023 at 6:16 PM, Texsox said: They would have a playoff game or two to offset it. Just have a seven game season, Game 1 vs. 1AA, Division 2-3, Juco, High School, Pop Warner Game Games 2-7 Three home and away rivalry games vs. one rival team. Playoffs - 128 Team Double Elimination Tournament, all 133 Division 1A teams make it. Have a play in bracket for teams seeded 124-133 to get down to 128 teams. It will be bigger than Texas. Or CFB could restore being the last North American Team Sport where the regular season actually matters. Edited November 30, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) What a mess now with the Texas vs. Alabama debate... Florida State losing would make things much easier...unless you're a Crimson Tide or Longhorns fan. UGA was just not the same without Bowers and McConkey at 100%. Milroe has really come a long way this season as a passer rather than run-first option. Edited December 3, 2023 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 111 the highest yardage total from halftime of Michigan/Iowa FSU/Louisville. Snooze. A lot of college football fans are going to be angry next week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: 111 the highest yardage total from halftime of Michigan/Iowa FSU/Louisville. Snooze. A lot of college football fans are going to be angry next week... First half yardage: Michigan + Iowa + Florida State + Louisville = 321 Quinn Ewers = 354 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 There's just no way FSU without Travis is a Top 4 team. But taking Alabama or Texas over an undefeated ACC team would still be unprecedented. It's going to have Texas and SEC (14 of last 17 winners) fans in general throwing a fit. 8 team playoff allows those two plus OSU and Oregon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/greg-sankey-says-leaving-sec-out-of-college-football-playoff-is-not-the-real-world-of-college-football/ This. The other nine conferences are horseshit compared to the SEC. Have been since the start of the Bowl Coalition Era 31 years ago. Alabama should play the winner of the AFC vs. NFC game for the World Championship, and Georgia should face the winner of the four team CFB playoff for the NCAA Division 1A Championship. Most Bowl Game Wins in CFB History 45 Alabama 37 Georgia 34 Southern California Most National Championships in CFB History 18 Yale 16 Alabama 15 Princeton Most National Championships Bowl Coalition / Alliance / Championship Series / College Football Playoff Era 7 Alabama (1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2020) 3 Florida (1996. 2006, 2008) 3 Florida State (1993, 1999, 2013) 3 Nebraska (1994, 1995, 1997) 3 Louisiana State (2003, 2007, 2019) 2 Clemson (2016, 2018) 2 Georgia (2021, 2022) 2 Ohio State (2002, 2014) 1 Auburn (2010) 1 Miami, Florida (2001) 1 Oklahoma (2000) 1 Tennessee (1998) 1 Texas (2005) Edited December 3, 2023 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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