April 9, 2025Apr 9 20 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: We can talk about Jacob Amaya, Miguel Vargas, and Travis Jankowski instead. Sure. Jankowski was on the team for 9 games. How much do you think he's set back the organization? Amaya's the best defensive SS in the upper levels. You're not complaining about things that are really a problem.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 21 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You missed the point. Kenny and Hahn sucked but they were still better GMs than Getz. Getz is that freaking bad. Nope, I got the point clearly. Getz was left a smoking crater, and had to rebuild from zero with no budget. Hahn was gifted a World Series winner, and couldn't keep the string going. I think KW was a micro-manager who messed up everything Hahn had lofty dreams of. KW traded Burger because he hated Hostetler. That's a crazy level of dysfunction. Getz has had one off-season and one draft, really.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Sure. Jankowski was on the team for 9 games. You sure about that?
April 9, 2025Apr 9 14 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Sure. Jankowski was on the team for 9 games. How much do you think he's set back the organization? Amaya's the best defensive SS in the upper levels. You're not complaining about things that are really a problem. Maton, Taylor, Sosa. The majority of the bullpen. It’s all mostly a pile of suck and they currently make up the team. Meanwhile, you mentioned Casper Wells and JB Shuck. Casper Wells played a total of 37 games for the Sox in 2013 and got 71 plate appearances. Shuck received a lot more play but did have a 0.8 bWAR in his first season with the Sox. They sucked too but I’m not sure how your post is relevant but mine isn’t. The suck is all over the roster now. Edited April 9, 2025Apr 9 by WhiteSox2023
April 9, 2025Apr 9 7 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: You sure about that? Getz and Venable’s new obsession! 🤣
April 9, 2025Apr 9 21 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: And there it is. Getz gets no blame for 2024. Not his garbage offseason, not his garbage trades… does he get any blame for 2025? Dude, the house burned down. You're screaming because your shoes are getting dirty walking around in the ash. I'm unsure of what blame you want assigned to him. Blame for his budget getting cut? Blame for having zero starting pitchers to build a team with? Blame for inheriting 3 overpaid slugs who would be injured by game 11? Few of his moves worked out for the 2024 season. I acknowledge that every time you start this whole cycle of pretending the previous 20 conversations ever happened.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 9 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said: You sure about that? It's a special level of querulousness to look for minor league signings to be bothered about.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 15 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Nope, I got the point clearly. Getz was left a smoking crater, and had to rebuild from zero with no budget. Hahn was gifted a World Series winner, and couldn't keep the string going. I think KW was a micro-manager who messed up everything Hahn had lofty dreams of. KW traded Burger because he hated Hostetler. That's a crazy level of dysfunction. Getz has had one off-season and one draft, really. Getz WAS the smoking crater of Hahn/Williams.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Maton, Taylor, Sosa. The majority of the bullpen. It’s all mostly a pile of suck and they currently make up the team. Meanwhile, you mentioned Casper Wells and JB Shuck. Casper Wells played a total of 37 games for the Sox in 2013 and got 71 plate appearances. Shuck received a lot more play but did have a 0.8 bWAR in his first season with the Sox. They sucked too but I’m not sure how your post is relevant but mine isn’t. The suck is all over the roster now. So wait. Playing 37 games is beneath mention, but subbing in for about 5 games and starting 4 in a platoon is an indictment? LOL. That's ridiculous.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Getz and Venable’s new obsession! 🤣 All teams are "obsessed" with AAA depth.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Dude, the house burned down. You're screaming because your shoes are getting dirty walking around in the ash. I'm unsure of what blame you want assigned to him. Blame for his budget getting cut? Blame for having zero starting pitchers to build a team with? Blame for inheriting 3 overpaid slugs who would be injured by game 11? Few of his moves worked out for the 2024 season. I acknowledge that every time you start this whole cycle of pretending the previous 20 conversations ever happened. A question that was asked earlier is still relevant and hasn't been answered by you. In your eyes, when is it fair to say "This is the team Chris Getz assembled?" I'm actually asking...
April 9, 2025Apr 9 13 minutes ago, WestEddy said: All teams are "obsessed" with AAA depth. Two MLB teams signed Jankowski this offseason and/or season — the Cubs once during ST and he didn’t make their opening day roster and the Sox twice. Edited April 9, 2025Apr 9 by WhiteSox2023
April 9, 2025Apr 9 10 minutes ago, WestEddy said: So wait. Playing 37 games is beneath mention, but subbing in for about 5 games and starting 4 in a platoon is an indictment? LOL. That's ridiculous. I never said it was beneath mention. I was just providing more insight to the two names you provided. Meanwhile, I named multiple players and a bullpen that Getz assembled that should mostly be in AAA right now. LOL. That’s ridiculous. Edited April 9, 2025Apr 9 by WhiteSox2023
April 9, 2025Apr 9 30 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Two MLB teams signed Jankowski this offseason and/or season — the Cubs once during ST and he didn’t make their opening day roster and the Sox twice. He will be back up if/when Benintendi gets put on the IL
April 9, 2025Apr 9 6 minutes ago, fathom said: He will be back up if/when Benintendi gets put on the IL And getting starts as well.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 33 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I never said it was beneath mention. I was just providing more insight to the two names you provided. Meanwhile, I named multiple players and a bullpen that Getz assembled that should mostly be in AAA right now. LOL. That’s ridiculous. I wonder how bad it would have to be for some to admit Getz has been a bust so far.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 9 minutes ago, fathom said: I wonder how bad it would have to be for some to admit Getz has been a bust so far. I'm optimistic about some of the structural changes that have been implemented. The trade returns outside Crochet seem awful though.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 6 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I'm optimistic about some of the structural changes that have been implemented. The trade returns outside Crochet seem awful though. Agreed completely. It’s why I said he would have been better off overseeing the changes while letting someone else be GM. So far, his talent evaluation seems horrific.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 31 minutes ago, fathom said: I wonder how bad it would have to be for some to admit Getz has been a bust so far. We will never find out because Getz gets years of runway because everything is still Hahn and Kenny’s fault apparently.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You missed the point. Kenny and Hahn sucked but they were still better GMs than Getz. Getz is that freaking bad. Getz is nowhere near Hahn-level bad.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 31 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Getz is nowhere near Hahn-level bad. The problem is we won't REALLY know until Getz gets to sign someone for more than 10 million dollars for more than one year, which we might not ever see.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 2 hours ago, Tony said: A question that was asked earlier is still relevant and hasn't been answered by you. In your eyes, when is it fair to say "This is the team Chris Getz assembled?" I'm actually asking... I answer this every time it's asked. Now. Everybody seems to forget Getz was left with a horrible roster, and pretty much zero pitching staff. Oh, and his budget was cut to nothing. A bunch of lesser trades of AAA bullpen arms for AAAA bullpen arms didn't work out. And he has to start having those work out. The Cease trade - the mob loves to acknowledge that JR probably forced that trade in ST to not pay Cease, then pretend that Getz forced JR to force him to make that trade. I don't even care about people criticizing moves. Just at least try to make sense.
April 9, 2025Apr 9 1 hour ago, DirtySox said: I'm optimistic about some of the structural changes that have been implemented. The trade returns outside Crochet seem awful though. And 2 of those guys need to really pop for that Crochet deal to be a big plus. Crochet only had 2 years of control, but man he's a top 5 pitcher. On the other hand, Santos for the #68 pick by itself seems like a good deal (if one values draft picks).
April 9, 2025Apr 9 2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Two MLB teams signed Jankowski this offseason and/or season — the Cubs once during ST and he didn’t make their opening day roster and the Sox twice. ...Because the White Sox and Cubs both have an equal expectation to make a playoff run this year? You don't even try to make sense. No, Jankowski isn't Aaron Judge. He's AAAA depth, a 4th OF on a bad team. Are you somehow mistaking this year's White Sox team as one of the top teams in the game?
April 9, 2025Apr 9 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: We will never find out because Getz gets years of runway because everything is still Hahn and Kenny’s fault apparently. He gets years of runway because he's not even 2 years into this rebuild. Teams don't generally win 100 games in their first year of a rebuild. Look it up.
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