5 hours ago, hi8is said:

They’re bringing in dudes who suck but have good work ethic to try and show the importance of fundamentals and preparation to the young ones with talent.

Maybe it’ll rub off and unlock something. Stranger things have happened and hope springs eternal. ?

Who are the young guys they will be showing? Kind of hard to see if you are in Charlotte or Birmingham.

This team truly could lose 110 games.  We are just entering year zero of this rebuild. I support the new South Loop stadium just to get a target date on when they will try not to suck.

Nothing says can’t waste a year more than the guys Getz has picked up. Awesome.

14 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

This team truly could lose 110 games.  We are just entering year zero of this rebuild. I support the new South Loop stadium just to get a target date on when they will try not to suck.

Ehhh. I think this team will have a better record than 2023. It’s not like any of the guys we lost were worth a damn last season even if there was a lot of big names, and this team will at least play above average defense. Looks more like a 70 win team to me. 

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

Ehhh. I think this team will have a better record than 2023. It’s not like any of the guys we lost were worth a damn last season even if there was a lot of big names, and this team will at least play above average defense. Looks more like a 70 win team to me. 

Probably, although looking at the bottom of that line up and considering Fedde and Soroka are 2-3 in your rotation, this thing could go South in a hurry.

Yah. It’s certainly not going to be an exciting brand of baseball. 

1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

I’m starting to think the White Sox are unaware of the tanking rules, and still think they have a shot at the first pick in 2025.

This would not be a surprise. It’s mid July 2024 when a reporter points this out in a sit down with TLR and he then says well you must know the rules better than me.

28 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

Probably, although looking at the bottom of that line up and considering Fedde and Soroka are 2-3 in your rotation, this thing could go South in a hurry.

I think saying things COULD go south quickly is giving them too much credit. It’s more like WHEN they go south. 

So is this what we’re looking at to start the season?  Those “reinforcements” can’t come soon enough, because it’s remarkable how little controllable talent would be on that Opening Day roster.  It also refinforces how critical it is for Getz to hit on a Cease trade.  Being competitive in a shitty AL Central by 2026 seems like a long shot without Dylan bringing back a couple of near major league ready pieces.

Lineup:

1. Benintendi, LF*
2. Vaughn, 1B
3. Robert, CF
4. Jimenez, DH
5. Moncada, 3B#
6. DeJong, SS
7. Lopez, 2B*
8. Pillar, RF
9. Maldonado, CA

Bench:

• IF: Sosa
• OF: Phillips*
• UT: Sheets*
• BC: Stassi

Rotation:

1. Cease
2. Fedde
3. Soroka
4. Kopech
5. Flexin

Bullpen:

• CL: Santos
• SU: Brebbia
• SU: Leasure
• MR: Garcia
• MR: Hill*
• MR: Lambert
• MR: Drohan*
• LR: Toussaint

Reinforcements:

• Montgomery, SS*
• Rodriguez, 2B
• Colas, RF*
• Shewmake, IF*
• Lee, CA
• Nastrini, SP
• Eder, SP*
• Mena, SP
• Shuster, SP*
• Speas, RP
   

If I was managing against the White Sox, I would walk Robert 4 times a game, or at least have the pitcher throw sliders 2 feet outside exclusively, and take my chances scoring 3 runs against the Sox pitching staff. I think if you take Robert out of the equation, scoring more than 2 runs is going to be a colossal challenge .

2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

I’m starting to think the White Sox are unaware of the tanking rules, and still think they have a shot at the first pick in 2025.

 

1 hour ago, Vote4Pedro said:

This would not be a surprise. It’s mid July 2024 when a reporter points this out in a sit down with TLR and he then says well you must know the rules better than me.

LOL they know. I heard from people prior to lottery that they were hoping to pick 7 

49 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

If I was managing against the White Sox, I would walk Robert 4 times a game, or at least have the pitcher throw sliders 2 feet outside exclusively, and take my chances scoring 3 runs against the Sox pitching staff. I think if you take Robert out of the equation, scoring more than 2 runs is going to be a colossal challenge .

It all comes down Yoan, Eloy, AV and Beni being what they can be for this to be anything better than a bottom 3 offense in the league. Sound familiar?

This organization deserves no benefit of doubt but this is a 4th outfielder competition move.

Pillar is not your starting  RF for 2024.

Nor is Phillips 

10 minutes ago, 2Deep said:

This organization deserves no benefit of doubt but this is a 4th outfielder competition move.

Pillar is not your starting  RF for 2024.

Who is the starting RF then?  It doesn’t sound like it will be Colas, which leaves Sheets, Pillar, & Phillips.

10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Who is the starting RF then?  It doesn’t sound like it will be Colas, which leaves Sheets, Pillar, & Phillips.

Right. If it’s not Colas, which seems like it will 100% not be, it’s one of these guys.

Edited February 3, 20242 yr by Bob Sacamano

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Right. If it’s not Colas, which seems like it will 100% not be, it’s one of these guys.

Makes me want to buy a ticket plan.

3 hours ago, Timmy U said:

This team truly could lose 110 games.  We are just entering year zero of this rebuild. I support the new South Loop stadium just to get a target date on when they will try not to suck.

It sort of feels like year -1 of the rebuild, at least on the offensive side, considering the ages I added to CWS’s reasonable guess at the opening day lineup

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Lineup:

1. Benintendi, LF* 29.7 (on opening day)
2. Vaughn, 1B 25.9
3. Robert, CF 26.6
4. Jimenez, DH 27.3
5. Moncada, 3B# 29.2
6. DeJong, SS 30.6
7. Lopez, 2B* 29
8. Pillar, RF 35.2
9. Maldonado, CA 37.6

Average age 30.1 ?

We’re going to need designated hitters for most of our position players.  

1 hour ago, 2Deep said:

This organization deserves no benefit of doubt but this is a 4th outfielder competition move.

Pillar is not your starting  RF for 2024.

1 hour ago, 2Deep said:

Nor is Phillips 

I wouldn’t put money on it if I were you.

This makes me wonder.  If the Sox acquired MLB ready talent in a Cease trade, like a RF and/or 2B, would they even be playing in the majors this year or would the Sox have them in Charlotte?  It sure seems like Getz wants to play these crappy no bat / all glove veterans.  He must dream about a lineup of 9 David Eckstein clones just like Jerry.

Edited February 3, 20242 yr by WhiteSox2023

4 hours ago, Timmy U said:

This team truly could lose 110 games.  We are just entering year zero of this rebuild. I support the new South Loop stadium just to get a target date on when they will try not to suck.

I see no evidence of a rebuild. Just picking up warm bodies and treading water is not a rebuild. Maybe they will try harder this year. 

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Who is the starting RF then?  It doesn’t sound like it will be Colas, which leaves Sheets, Pillar, & Phillips.

There is still guys available and we are still in off season 

1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

It all comes down Yoan, Eloy, AV and Beni being what they can be for this to be anything better than a bottom 3 offense in the league. Sound familiar?

Yes, it’s the same pipe dream as it is every year.  I could actually see AV and Benintendi improving but we all know Moncada and Eloy will be injured at some point in the season, if not the majority of it.

1 minute ago, 2Deep said:

There is still guys available and we are still in off season 

Who?  It’s pretty obvious the Sox aren’t looking to spend any more than $3 to $5 million on any one player.

I have no doubt Pillar is their main plan for RF on opening day.  You may as well guarantee him the $3 million.

Edited February 3, 20242 yr by WhiteSox2023