Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Crochet didn't have his good command tonight.

5 singles. 6ks. No walks.

Guys a machine even when he's battling.

Unbelievable. And he makes it look easy. This dude looks like a he could toss 200 innings this season. He doesn’t even look tired.

10 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Stone's been saying that since April

You’re probably right.  He just repeated it again.

I’m happy to eat crow on Crochet.

1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

You’re probably right.  He just repeated it again.

Even if he dials it back, he’s still going to throw 150 innings this season. He’s making a lot of people on here look very foolish…

Just now, WhiteSox2023 said:

You’re probably right.  He just repeated it again.

I think once Clevinger is back they go to a 6 man until he's traded, and if he isn't then they really start limiting him. 

7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Even if he dials it back, he’s still going to throw 150 innings this season. He’s making a lot of people on here look very foolish…

Well, even Stone is agreeing with the majority of posters on this site that thought the same thing, and he was actually a major league pitcher rather than a message board poster.  I’m not seeing the supposed shame when Stone thinks the same thing and has more insight than all of us.

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023

1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Well, even Stone is agreeing with the majority of posters on this site that thought the same thing, and he was actually a major league pitcher rather than a message board poster.  I’m not seeing the shame when Stone thinks the same thing and has more insight than all of us.

Stone looking foolish too. Bottom line, Crochet making a lot of people look very foolish even those that were still doubting him a few weeks ago. It’s ok to admit you were very wrong.

this game is over lol

9 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

I think once Clevinger is back they go to a 6 man until he's traded, and if he isn't then they really start limiting him. 

What's the point of Clevinger at all?  No other team wants him:  that was obvious last year at this time when he was having a good year and couldn't be moved.  And then no one signed him.

 

24 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Stone's been saying that since April

it's gonna happen, it would be negligence if they didnt try to protect his arm

Vaughn is lucky he didn't get body slammed there 

who could have possibly seen this unfolding this way

I’m guessing the dodgers score 6 or more before this game is finished

Wilson continues to be lighter fluid

2 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Stone looking foolish too. Bottom line, Crochet making a lot of people look very foolish even those that were still doubting him a few weeks ago. It’s ok to admit you were very wrong.

Nah, I disagree.  It was simply guesswork to think Crochet could throw 200 innings this year.  Hell, even in this very thread you just made a post about him throwing 200 innings and a second post about him potentially dialing back to 150 innings.  50 more innings is a lot.  So which is it?

Steven Wilson lol, nice job on that trade Chrissy

3 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

What's the point of Clevinger at all?  No other team wants him:  that was obvious last year at this time when he was having a good year and couldn't be moved.  And then no one signed him.

 

Last year there was a lot more money involved.

1 minute ago, Soxfest said:

Wilson continues to be lighter fluid

Nice of him to tank his trade value with us.

And there’s that improved Getz defense like clockwork!

4 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

What's the point of Clevinger at all?  No other team wants him:  that was obvious last year at this time when he was having a good year and couldn't be moved.  And then no one signed him.

 

Clevinger had a huge buyout that was prohibitive to anyone picking him up.

2 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Stone looking foolish too. Bottom line, Crochet making a lot of people look very foolish even those that were still doubting him a few weeks ago. It’s ok to admit you were very wrong.

Looking foolish is usually used for playing the fool.The reason the majority got it wrong is because they went with the conventional wisdom regarding his innings limit and played the odds on his health.

Those 2 things combined didn't seem likely to lead to more than 100 innings pitched.

It might've been considered foolish to sayanythinge else.

The fact is he changed into a unicorn.That was very unpredictable.

Defense has not improved 1%, that’s on Getz!

4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Nah, I disagree.  It was simply guesswork to think Crochet could throw 200 innings this year.  Hell, even in this very thread you just made a post about him throwing 200 innings and a second post about him potentially dialing back to 150 innings.  50 more innings is a lot.  So which is it?

I said he looks like he could go 200. Didn’t say he will. Big difference bro. If I had to set the over/under today, I’d go with 150. Obviously that far exceeds your estimate from even just a few weeks ago..

Trade DeJong, move Sosa over, bring up Ramos, get Colson ready for next year, even if he only hits .220 his first year.

19 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Even if he dials it back, he’s still going to throw 150 innings this season. He’s making a lot of people on here look very foolish…

I think that Crochet can power through and do his 120-150 innings, if that's what his trading team needs. It's how that affects him next year that is important. It's possible he scuffles most of next year recovering from the initial shock of this year's work load. 

And it's possible he doesn't. He doesn't have the mileage on his arm that would be expected of someone in the bigs since 21. 

3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Looking foolish is usually used for playing the fool.The reason the majority got it wrong is because they went with the conventional wisdom regarding his innings limit and played the odds on his health.

Those 2 things combined didn't seem likely to lead to more than 100 innings pitched.

It might've been considered foolish to sayanythinge else.

The fact is he changed into a unicorn.That was very unpredictable.

But same people were still digging in their heels on it a few weeks ago = foolish. Same people were also giving Harold grief for sticking up for Maldonado (which I agree is also foolish) but today they won’t admit they were wrong on Crochet. Hmm