1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

We recorded with Dan Hayes and he was excellent. He talked about the trade discussions between the Sox and Twins at last year’s deadline. I’m sorry to inform that Luke Keashall was never available. 

I guess I’ll have to listen to the recording.  Did he ever admit publicly that he got the report completely wrong?  Nice of him to apparently share it with you directly.

Guess I know which reporter to put in the Bruce Levine bucket.  🤣

Edited March 21, 20251 yr by WhiteSox2023

7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So you’d rather have Tauchman, Slater, and Taylor each all being paid more money than $1.5 million for Verdugo?

Seriously?

Well, don’t look at their ages, stats, etc., that would prove you completely wrong…

That’s what you got out of me saying Alex Verdugo sucks? 

6 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

That’s what you got out of me saying Alex Verdugo sucks? 

Oh okay, so you are acknowledging that Getz made even worse signings?  Three of them in fact?

Edited March 21, 20251 yr by WhiteSox2023

9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Oh okay, so you are acknowledging that Getz made even worse signings?  Three of them in fact?

Difference is Atlanta is trying to win. Getz is not.

14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Oh okay, so you are acknowledging that Getz made even worse signings?  Three of them in fact?

I don’t care about these type of signings as much as you do. They don’t matter. What I think is if Getz would have signed Verdugo you would have lost your mind and been super mad about it, though. 

1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

I don’t care about these type of signings as much as you do. They don’t matter. What I think is if Getz would have signed Verdugo you would have lost your mind and been super mad about it, though. 

Nice copout answer — “it doesn’t matter.”

Whatever.  🤣

12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Nice copout answer — “it doesn’t matter.”

Whatever.  🤣

Okay. They sign Verdugo who you’ve apparently pined for this offseason and he plays well. Then what? You signing him to a long term deal? 

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

So you’d rather have Tauchman, Slater, and Taylor each all being paid more money than $1.5 million for Verdugo?

Seriously?

Well, don’t look at their ages, stats, etc., that would prove you completely wrong…

Verdugo = 83 wRC+ | 0.6 fWAR = good

Tauchman = 111 wRC+ | 1.1 fWAR = bad

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Verdugo = 83 wRC+ | 0.6 fWAR = good

Tauchman = 111 wRC+ | 1.1 fWAR = bad

Now look at their career lines and WAR.

Also, Verdugo is 28.  Tauchman is 34.

Who is more likely to be as good as usual or even improve?

42 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Okay. They sign Verdugo who you’ve apparently pined for this offseason and he plays well. Then what? You signing him to a long term deal? 

I didn’t pine for anyone, but nice of you to put words in my mouth.  My point was that this is just further proof that Getz jumps on mediocre veteran players and overpays them, rather than letting the market work itself out and grabbing guys on the cheap…  which is exactly what a garbage team should be doing.

Captain Panic indeed.

Remember when our stupid GM said that Austin Slater was his main priority of the offseason?  🤣

What a fucking loser.

Edited March 21, 20251 yr by WhiteSox2023

12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Now look at their career lines and WAR.

Also, Verdugo is 28.  Tauchman is 34.

Who is more likely to be as good as usual or even improve?

 

fWAR per 600 PA (Career | Prior 3 Yr):

• Verdugo:  1.7 | 1.0
• Tauchman:  2.2 | 1.7
• Slater:  2.1 | 2.0

wRC+ vs. LHP (Career | Prior 3 Yr):

• Verdugo:  79 | 95
• Slater: 121 | 111

2025 Steamer Projections:

• Verdugo: 292 PA | 102 wRC+ | 0.6 fWAR
• Tauchman:  347 PA | 110 wRC+ | 1.1 fWAR
• Slater:  203 PA | 98 wRC+ | 0.5 fWAR

Deleted this by accident:

wRC+ vs. RHP (Career | Prior 3 Yr):

• Verdugo:  110 | 101
• Tauchman: 101 | 110

In conclusion, a Tauchman/Slater platoon has been better historically, has been better recently, and is projected to be better next year.  But “age”…

Edited March 21, 20251 yr by Chicago White Sox

Also... 28 other teams choose to not sign him. It's March 20th. Maybe there's some issues there we don't know about if teams weren't even willing to sign the guy on the cheap.

15 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Also... 28 other teams choose to not sign him. It's March 20th. Maybe there's some issues there we don't know about if teams weren't even willing to sign the guy on the cheap.

29 other teams probably weren’t interested in Tauchman or Slater after Getz overpaid them.  The Cubs non-tendered Tauchman even though they needed a fourth outfielder.

Are we going to continue to play this gave that Tauchman and Slater aren’t trash veteran players that a rebuilding team should have no business signing?

50 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:

Also... 28 other teams choose to not sign him. It's March 20th. Maybe there's some issues there we don't know about if teams weren't even willing to sign the guy on the cheap.

You could say the same about Jose Iglesias, and he was one of the most important players on the Mets during their final six weeks of the season.

Obviously he was expecting a LOT more than a NRI to Padres' camp.

53 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

29 other teams probably weren’t interested in Tauchman or Slater after Getz overpaid them.  The Cubs non-tendered Tauchman even though they needed a fourth outfielder.

Are we going to continue to play this gave that Tauchman and Slater aren’t trash veteran players that a rebuilding team should have no business signing?

Tauchman put up 1.1 WAR in 350 plate appearances last year and he’s a trash veteran?  I bet if your wife performed fellatio six days a week you’d be whining it wasn’t enough.

19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Tauchman put up 1.1 WAR in 350 plate appearances last year and he’s a trash veteran?  I bet if your wife performed fellatio six days a week you’d be whining it wasn’t enough.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jose-iglesias/10231/stats?position=SS

Jose Iglesias was 2.5 and ended up with an NRI...

"If we all agree the White Sox aren’t going to roar to playoff life after 121 losses, then, for this prediction to come true, the Twins would have to win the Central and be the only Central team to advance. FanGraphs’ projections give the Twins the highest-percentage odds of winning the division, so ... maybe? Also, mere regression to the mean would mean fewer losses for the White Sox and, ergo, fewer wins for their division foes and, ergo, less chance of the Central producing multiple playoff teams. (Did I just talk myself into this prediction? I think I did!)"

mlb.com Anthony Castrovince

Also, Garrett Crochet projected to have a K rate over 40%.  Shane Bieber last did this in abbreviated 2000 Covid season.

8 hours ago, ptatc said:

Difference is Atlanta is trying to win. Getz is not.

So he should make bad signings intentionally?

4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Tauchman put up 1.1 WAR in 350 plate appearances last year and he’s a trash veteran?  I bet if your wife performed fellatio six days a week you’d be whining it wasn’t enough.

Dude, I’m divorced for a reason.  I don’t sit around wishing my wife or ex-wife looks like Kathy Ireland or that she gave me head more.

6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jose-iglesias/10231/stats?position=SS

Jose Iglesias was 2.5 and ended up with an NRI...

That makes him a trash player?

2 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Dude, I’m divorced for a reason.  I don’t sit around wishing my wife or ex-wife looks like Kathy Ireland or that she gave me head more.

Lol…I think you’re missing the point here buddy

50 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

That makes him a trash player?

Timing....market crushed those still standing at the end when the music stopped.

50 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

That makes him a trash player?

Timing....market crushed those still standing at the end when the music stopped.