February 12, 20251 yr 18 minutes ago, WestEddy said: About 25% of all TJS happen in March and April. It's throughout the game. Did I say TJS don’t happen in March or April? That’s weird don’t recall that being any part of my overall statement that this org routinely does this exact same rest and rehab thing only to get burned by a TJS at the end.
February 12, 20251 yr Author 17 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Did I say TJS don’t happen in March or April? That’s weird don’t recall that being any part of my overall statement that this org routinely does this exact same rest and rehab thing only to get burned by a TJS at the end. March and April TJS arise from doing a full work up and deciding TJS is the answer at the beginning or during of ST. You have a doctor telling you they're not getting burned. But I'm sure there's no anti-White Sox bias in your statement that the rest of the league "is over" TJS in spring training. And seriously, "hot garbage" and "bum" is regularly thrown around describing guys just doing a job. I can't imagine those people have a deep sense of caring when they deride these guys. Edited February 12, 20251 yr by WestEddy
February 12, 20251 yr Author Weird how the Dodgers, the gold standard for pitcher health, only found this out at the beginning of spring training, and didn't start treatment the day after the World Series. Dodgers relievers Michael Kopech and Evan Phillips are behind schedule and likely to start the year on the injured list. — Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) February 12, 2025
February 12, 20251 yr 20 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Weird how the Dodgers, the gold standard for pitcher health, only found this out at the beginning of spring training, and didn't start treatment the day after the World Series. Again, your strawman of the time this happened is just that, a strawman. This isn’t about it being handled in spring training. Consider us all surprised that Michael Kopech is behind schedule and might be on the injured list. Wow that’s just so surprising can’t believe westeddy has gotten me so good
February 12, 20251 yr Author 6 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Also, Ptatc is not a doctor as far as I know. He is what his name says I stand corrected. Physical therapist.
February 12, 20251 yr The Dodgers also acquire a hundred good players to cover for their injuries. The Sox have guys like Touki as a backup.
February 12, 20251 yr 46 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Again, your strawman of the time this happened is just that, a strawman. This isn’t about it being handled in spring training. Consider us all surprised that Michael Kopech is behind schedule and might be on the injured list. Wow that’s just so surprising can’t believe westeddy has gotten me so good So what did the Dodgers do to cover for this lack of pitching? Did they trade young prospects to get more middle relievers?
February 12, 20251 yr Author 25 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So what did the Dodgers do to cover for this lack of pitching? Did they trade young prospects to get more middle relievers? Who cares? The subject is announcing injuries, complications and timeline disruptions at the opening of spring training. You don't have to shoehorn your pet peeve into every single convo.
February 12, 20251 yr 16 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Who cares? The subject is announcing injuries, complications and timeline disruptions at the opening of spring training. You don't have to shoehorn your pet peeve into every single convo. You, of all people, said this? After you LITERALLY shoehorned the Dodgers into this conversation about Ky Bush? hahahahahahahahahaha
February 12, 20251 yr Author 31 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You, of all people, said this? After you LITERALLY shoehorned the Dodgers into this conversation about Ky Bush? hahahahahahahahahaha I'm going to apologize to Chicago White Sox dude for this thread getting derailed. I should really stop logging in as you and mocking everything I post. The exchange was over. Kylle is implying that no other teams announce TJS, delayed timelines or other lingering injuries for pitchers at the opening of spring training. The Dodgers did just that.
February 12, 20251 yr 9 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I'm going to apologize to Chicago White Sox dude for this thread getting derailed. I should really stop logging in as you and mocking everything I post. The exchange was over. Kylle is implying that no other teams announce TJS, delayed timelines or other lingering injuries for pitchers at the opening of spring training. The Dodgers did just that. Listen, I know your whole game here is to be mortally wounded by anyone who has something bad to say about the organization. This was my opening statement, to ptatc i never said “no other teams do this thing that routinely seems to affect the white sox” but rather the other 29 teams seem to deal with the injury immediately and move on. To which you replied “25 percent of TJS are reported in March and April ” because I dunno it was all you could think of at the time. It definitely was not a thing I was talking about but hey glad you got it out there
February 12, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, WestEddy said: Weird how the Dodgers, the gold standard for pitcher health, only found this out at the beginning of spring training, and didn't start treatment the day after the World Series. Actually, this news came out several weeks ago.
February 12, 20251 yr 21 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I'm going to apologize to Chicago White Sox dude for this thread getting derailed. I should really stop logging in as you and mocking everything I post. The exchange was over. Kylle is implying that no other teams announce TJS, delayed timelines or other lingering injuries for pitchers at the opening of spring training. The Dodgers did just that. You should have just stopped there.
February 12, 20251 yr Author 37 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Listen, I know your whole game here is to be mortally wounded by anyone who has something bad to say about the organization. This was my opening statement, to ptatc i never said “no other teams do this thing that routinely seems to affect the white sox” but rather the other 29 teams seem to deal with the injury immediately and move on. To which you replied “25 percent of TJS are reported in March and April ” because I dunno it was all you could think of at the time. It definitely was not a thing I was talking about but hey glad you got it out there Dude, I don't see the point of dragging this out. Everybody paraphrases. Don't play the hyperbole game of calling me "mortally wounded", then whine like a little baby about a word.
February 12, 20251 yr Author 36 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You should have just stopped there. And you should have stopped before that. Go find Chris Getz and throw a snowball at him. It would save a lot of threads from getting derailed.
February 12, 20251 yr 10 minutes ago, WestEddy said: And you should have stopped before that. Go find Chris Getz and throw a snowball at him. It would save a lot of threads from getting derailed. Take your own advice there.
February 12, 20251 yr 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Dude, I don't see the point of dragging this out. Everybody paraphrases. Don't play the hyperbole game of calling me "mortally wounded", then whine like a little baby about a word. You dragged yourself into it with a response that had nothing to do with what I said, and immediately whined like a little baby about “burn” You literally fight with the entire board all the fucking time. My comment wasn’t directed to you, about you, or anything regarding you or anything you said, and you started insulting me about it. there is no hyperbole here, you are the biggest baby this board has seen since Ragah. Congrats on that
February 12, 20251 yr 19 minutes ago, WestEddy said: And you should have stopped before that. Go find Chris Getz and throw a snowball at him. It would save a lot of threads from getting derailed. And if you hit him with a snowball, he will then trade you for someone who can’t throw strikes
February 12, 20251 yr 4 minutes ago, fathom said: And if you hit him with a snowball, he will then trade you for someone who can’t throw strikes Or cash considerations...
February 12, 20251 yr 26 minutes ago, fathom said: And if you hit him with a snowball, he will then trade you for someone who can’t throw strikes dont' give the rotation any ideas.
February 13, 20251 yr 10 hours ago, WestEddy said: About 25% of all TJS happen in March and April. It's throughout the game. Ok wait. 1/2 of February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September. Maybe October. Without counting October, that's 7.5-ish months. March and April are thus 25% of the MLB year. So basically, TJS is effectively random for most teams. Out of the last set of TJS operations done for the White Sox on guys whose names I recognize: Guys who got hurt or did the surgery right around ST: Jimmy Cordero Garrett Crochet Matt Foster Davis Martin Jesse Scholtens Ky Bush Guys who had it at some other time in the year: Evan Marshall Liam Hendriks If 25% of the injuries are associated with Spring Training, and out of the last 8 big leaguers - 6 of the 8 White Sox had them in Spring Training or right after, that is a huge overconcentration. Might even count as statistically significant as an outlier. This pattern also does not continue back into the 2010s, because guys like Rodon and Kopech were having it mid-season. Edit: now that I think about it, Hendricks basically counts as a spring training TJS also since they rushed him back from f***ing Chemotherapy to the big leagues with only like 6 innings of work, no time for his body or arm to recover.
February 13, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Ok wait. 1/2 of February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September. Maybe October. Without counting October, that's 7.5-ish months. March and April are thus 25% of the MLB year. So basically, TJS is effectively random for most teams. Out of the last set of TJS operations done for the White Sox on guys whose names I recognize: Guys who got hurt or did the surgery right around ST: Jimmy Cordero Garrett Crochet Matt Foster Davis Martin Jesse Scholtens Ky Bush Guys who had it at some other time in the year: Evan Marshall Liam Hendriks If 25% of the injuries are associated with Spring Training, and out of the last 8 big leaguers - 6 of the 8 White Sox had them in Spring Training or right after, that is a huge overconcentration. Might even count as statistically significant as an outlier. This pattern also does not continue back into the 2010s, because guys like Rodon and Kopech were having it mid-season. Edit: now that I think about it, Hendricks basically counts as a spring training TJS also since they rushed him back from f***ing Chemotherapy to the big leagues with only like 6 innings of work, no time for his body or arm to recover. When did Dane Dunning have it when he was with the Sox?
February 13, 20251 yr 12 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: When did Dane Dunning have it when he was with the Sox? Looks like March 2019.
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