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3/15 - Rox @ Sox (whitesox.com stream), Sox @ D-backs - split squad

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guy throwing for AZ comes in at 98 99 99...99.7  Juan Murillo was in Dodgers' org previously  last pitch 100

Lipcius up   was in Tigers and Dodgers organization  2019 draftee

 

Jacob Gonzalez vs. heater

walked more than he struck out three consecutive years at Ole Miss    Hampson catches what sounded like broken bat flare

 

8-7 to bottom of ninth

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  • Nothing left to prove in AAA. His success in that league is much more important than anything that has happened this spring. I'm hoping he's the opening day shortstop. 

  • Baldwin over 100 mph EV on the double. For me, Baldwin > Meidroth, but I have always been a fan.

  • There is something to be said for having the rookies go through their growing pains this year and be ready to produce next year.

30 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Tristan Gray drives one into gap after a deep foul ball...tie game

.385 1.126 making bid for SS job if his field could hold up there.

Tristan Gray has hit a lot of homers in the minors, including 2 30-homer seasons.  
It's a longshot, but we sure could use 30 homers...or even 10.

One out grounder to J.Gonzalez

Schoenle still in

3-0 to Hampson  walks to set up for top prospect 3B Jordan Lawlar

13 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Tristan Gray has hit a lot of homers in the minors, including 2 30-homer seasons.  
It's a longshot, but we sure could use 30 homers...or even 10.

They simply have to decide if Sox need more offense in Gray or defense in Amaya.

As a fan of runs scored in general...prefer offense lol.

 

Schoenle gets Lawlar with foul tip changeup.  Mancini last out.

And he prompt blasts a walk off two run homer over Tatum to CF.

Sox lose 9-8 after courageous comeback.

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Sox 7-14 now   9-20 last spring

Venable might want to rethink having no identified closer.  Not that he was managing this one they just lost.

4 hours ago, fathom said:

Meidroth has done nothing to deserve making the opening day roster 

Nothing left to prove in AAA. His success in that league is much more important than anything that has happened this spring. I'm hoping he's the opening day shortstop. 

19 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Nothing left to prove in AAA. His success in that league is much more important than anything that has happened this spring. I'm hoping he's the opening day shortstop. 

Then you're going to bench Sosa?

If he's Dustin Pedroia Lite as some claim...why throw away an extra year of control when we're deliberately sandbagging the season for 2026 draft positioning? For one month of mostly cold weather baseball?

And if spring training play was completely meaningless, Drury wouldn't be making the team.  Neither would Jankowski based on last season, but Venable trusts him as a glue player.

It's kind of silly to stick Sosa at DH when they still need to decide if he can play any infield position competently...just like Vargas at 3B and 1B.

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54 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Nothing left to prove in AAA. His success in that league is much more important than anything that has happened this spring. I'm hoping he's the opening day shortstop. 

Yup on a team going nowhere fast is especially when should be throwing out spring and going by who has performed as a minor league player and find out ASAP if they are AAAA or legit MLB players backups or otherwise. Lets see what we got in the guy.

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His arm is closer to Madrigal than Royce Clayton....which is hardly a compliment.

Meidroth has only played 199 minor league games (as of last year in late June). He is not a finished product, and it will be years before he is. But, his development and early success are encouraging signs for a Red Sox organization in the early stages of building their next young core at the major league level.

https://www.milb.com/worcester/news/chase-meidroth-ascension-through-the-minor-leagues&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj6l5rWrI2MAxU_LkQIHTCcFxIQFnoECAYQAg&usg=AOvVaw1KKXibDueCqgCuWAvZtNqS

 

"Meidroth comes with just one tool that grades as average or better. He has fringy speed and arm strength, and he's not adventurous on the bases or especially in the range. He may open the season as Chicago's shortstop despite below-average range there, and he fits best at second base because his arm is stretched at third base."

2025

Scouting grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 35 | Run: 45 | Arm: 45 | Field: 45 | Overall: 45

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1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Yup on a team going nowhere fast is especially when should be throwing out spring and going by who has performed as a minor league player and find out ASAP if they are AAAA or legit MLB players backups or otherwise. Lets see what we got in the guy.

There is something to be said for having the rookies go through their growing pains this year and be ready to produce next year.

4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Nothing left to prove in AAA. His success in that league is much more important than anything that has happened this spring. I'm hoping he's the opening day shortstop. 

So fucking true

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

So fucking true

It’s like a month at most, isn’t it?  I’d hold him down to gain that extra year of control.

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26 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

It’s like a month at most, isn’t it?  I’d hold him down to gain that extra year of control.

I don’t disagree with you…but spring training untimely is pretty meaningless.  If you believe in Meidrtoh, it’s because of a full season of AAA at-bats and not a couple spring training ones.

51 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

It’s like a month at most, isn’t it?  I’d hold him down to gain that extra year of control.

Man I just don’t want us to do that stuff to players anymore.  

Sure...when someone has clearly won the job, that's fine.

If he was swinging the bat well but lining into outs all over the place that would be one thing.

Why take a slumping hitter into the cold weather to win MAYBE one extra game in April?  Will it sell one more ticket?  Probably just a handful.

There will be more rainouts anyway compared to Charlotte.

Meidroth Baldwin Ramos Elko Fletcher Colas and DeLoach can play everyday with Narvaez/Teel/Quero...however they want to divide up playing time.

Maybe Omar is traded or DFAed to clear the runway.

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1 hour ago, Jerksticks said:

Man I just don’t want us to do that stuff to players anymore.  

Until we don’t have a scumbag cheap owner, it’s the right play.

7 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Until we don’t have a scumbag cheap owner, it’s the right play.

A cheap scumbag huh? OK.

8 hours ago, Jerksticks said:

Man I just don’t want us to do that stuff to players anymore.  

Historically, Sox haven’t really done that.

10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

It’s like a month at most, isn’t it?  I’d hold him down to gain that extra year of control.

I’m normally against the manipulation, but why not here? A month of cold weather games. Even the Sox road trips are to cold places.  IMO, spring training stats are useless, but the team is not trying to win so why not hold it against him? It’s also true he has nothing more to prove in AAA, but so what? If he somehow develops into a really good player, no matter who owns the team at the time will be happy with the extra year of control. Call him up in a month and let him play.

14 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Then you're going to bench Sosa?

If he's Dustin Pedroia Lite as some claim...why throw away an extra year of control when we're deliberately sandbagging the season for 2026 draft positioning? For one month of mostly cold weather baseball?

And if spring training play was completely meaningless, Drury wouldn't be making the team.  Neither would Jankowski based on last season, but Venable trusts him as a glue player.

It's kind of silly to stick Sosa at DH when they still need to decide if he can play any infield position competently...just like Vargas at 3B and 1B.

I don’t think it affects Sosa at all. He won’t be playing shortstop. Try and come up with 13 players without Meidroth. It’s not easy. 

It's Meidroth. Once Garfien devotes a podcast episode entirely to you, that means you either are about to get a full time job here, or you are about to be acquired somewhere else because we were used as leverage (Hamels)

and it's not gonna be the latter

37 minutes ago, Fielder Jones said:

It's Meidroth. Once Garfien devotes a podcast episode entirely to you, that means you either are about to get a full time job here, or you are about to be acquired somewhere else because we were used as leverage (Hamels)

and it's not gonna be the latter

So what is your alignment?

If it was simply Meidroth 2B, Rojas 3B and Sosa at SS...at least you would have solid/decent defense at 2/4 infield positions...and Vargas is eventually if not already better than Vaughn too.

So just DH Vaughn.

It's like they cleared SS for Montgomery and now don't have a clue how to close the gap without everyone playing their weaker positions.

 

i love Sosa's style of offense (launch angle) but he is barely 2b. the writeups we saw about his defense have not held up over the years

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21 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

So what is your alignment?

If it was simply Meidroth 2B, Rojas 3B and Sosa at SS...at least you would have solid/decent defense at 2/4 infield positions...and Vargas is eventually if not already better than Vaughn too.

So just DH Vaughn.

It's like they cleared SS for Montgomery and now don't have a clue how to close the gap without everyone playing their weaker positions.

 

I'd proffer that most of the teams in the league are playing some form of musical chairs, not playing guys "in their strongest positions" in order to get bats in the lineup, extend careers, or strike a balance of lesser evils. 

Monty started 3 games at SS this spring. It seems like the team has a couple of options they're deciding between in Amaya (glove-first) or Meidroth (OBP). You don't have to start a Gold Glove winner at each position. You can start a slightly above average glove at SS and still be ahead of the game. 

8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I'd proffer that most of the teams in the league are playing some form of musical chairs, not playing guys "in their strongest positions" in order to get bats in the lineup, extend careers, or strike a balance of lesser evils. 

Monty started 3 games at SS this spring. It seems like the team has a couple of options they're deciding between in Amaya (glove-first) or Meidroth (OBP). You don't have to start a Gold Glove winner at each position. You can start a slightly above average glove at SS and still be ahead of the game. 

Meidroth will not be slightly above big league SS average without an arm and range.

There's already dribblers getting between him and Drury.

This will just end up putting more pressure on a pitching staff not designed to be as strong individually as Crochet or even Fedde last season.

The bullpen MIGHT be better?   That's the best that one can assert at this point.

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