JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Don’t worry everyone, Chris Getz is fixing this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 3 hours ago, vilehoopster said: Do you have a issue with hypocrisy? Because I do. Lynn can't, years after the fact, come on and complain about the management problems and imply that he cared about winning when he was with the Sox; when it is absolutely clear that he didn't care about winning at all. Lynn knew, KNEW that if he lost weight, he would be a better pitcher and help his team win (teams, both the Sox and the Dodgers). But he did nothing to lose that weight and just joked about it when asked by the press. He certainly was thankful for Sox management when they silenced/ shamed Steve Stone because Stone said that Lynn would have better stamina or something like go longer in the game or whatever. I remember that Stone was silenced and (I think) halfway apoligized, even though Stone was 100% corrrect, and he was being kind the way he said it. This coming out of Lynn's mouth, however valid, is total BS and just another example of his weakness of character. Wasn't Lance big when he was awesome with us in 21 or awesome with Texas or awesome with STL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 8 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Don’t worry everyone, Chris Getz is fixing this He actually has made a bunch of changes since Lynn was last in the Sox organization. I'm not in town, and don't want to use up my minutes streaming video. Does Lynn talk about how his disastrous last 2 seasons in Chicago helped get everybody fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 17 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I assume you're referring to me. I've never said the organization was peachy when KW/Hahn were in charge. Weird how, once the ex-director of development is put in charge, he starts making the changes that were needed. Almost like he wanted to all along, but couldn't. I'd actually like to see any evidence that KW/Hahn were begging Getz to upgrade areas of development, and he didn't, in a craven move to get his bosses fired and for him to take over leadership. It was previously posted that Getz had a large amount of freedom in his previous role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 24 minutes ago, WestEddy said: He actually has made a bunch of changes since Lynn was last in the Sox organization. I'm not in town, and don't want to use up my minutes streaming video. Does Lynn talk about how his disastrous last 2 seasons in Chicago helped get everybody fired? When do we start reaping the rewards of said changes?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: When do we start reaping the rewards of said changes?? Do you seriously not know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Do you seriously not know this? Serious question. When does @WestEddy start holding Getz accountable? If they’re still losing 100+ games in 2027 will you still be optimistic about all the organizational changes Getz made and want to give him more time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 10 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: When do we start reaping the rewards of said changes?? Maybe by 2027 or 2028... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Rowand44 said: Wasn't Lance big when he was awesome with us in 21 or awesome with Texas or awesome with STL? People seem to forget that Lynn was already in his mid-30’s when the Sox acquired him. It could just be natural decline due to age rather than him being big. Keuchel fell off a cliff right at around the same age. But like Keuchel, I think he pissed off fans with his attitude when he was getting shellacked in his starts. I can’t remember for sure but did Lynn also say some stupid things to the media about the team while he was getting destroyed on the mound? I also seem to remember Lynn glaring at teammates for making errors while he was on the mound, just like Keuchel. Edited April 11 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 8 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Serious question. When does @WestEddy start holding Getz accountable? If they’re still losing 100+ games in 2027 will you still be optimistic about all the organizational changes Getz made and want to give him more time? I already made a post that he will still be saying “IT’S A REBUILD, YOU IDIOTS!” when the Sox still have a losing record in 2027. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Serious question. When does @WestEddy start holding Getz accountable? If they’re still losing 100+ games in 2027 will you still be optimistic about all the organizational changes Getz made and want to give him more time? He'll have the same caveat that Hahn had. JR didn't provide enough money to spend in free agency to "finish the job." Injuries/bad luck/but sound processes. Surprised we haven't recently heard the phrase "unprecedented financial flexibility/extended championship window" to describe the upcoming 2027-2030 reign of White Sox dominance... Edited April 11 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 4 hours ago, vilehoopster said: Do you have a issue with hypocrisy? Because I do. Lynn can't, years after the fact, come on and complain about the management problems and imply that he cared about winning when he was with the Sox; when it is absolutely clear that he didn't care about winning at all. Lynn knew, KNEW that if he lost weight, he would be a better pitcher and help his team win (teams, both the Sox and the Dodgers). But he did nothing to lose that weight and just joked about it when asked by the press. He certainly was thankful for Sox management when they silenced/ shamed Steve Stone because Stone said that Lynn would have better stamina or something like go longer in the game or whatever. I remember that Stone was silenced and (I think) halfway apoligized, even though Stone was 100% corrrect, and he was being kind the way he said it. This coming out of Lynn's mouth, however valid, is total BS and just another example of his weakness of character. 1. Lance Lynn can do whatever he wants, and it kinda seems like he just did. 2. You make the claim he didn't care about winning at all. In 2021, the White Sox went 93-69, their best season since 2005 (removing the COVID shortened 2020 season from a winning percentage standpoint). The team leader in WAR, for a 93-69 squad, was 5.4. Who posted that WAR you ask? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 14 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Serious question. When does @WestEddy start holding Getz accountable? If they’re still losing 100+ games in 2027 will you still be optimistic about all the organizational changes Getz made and want to give him more time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 18 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Serious question. When does @WestEddy start holding Getz accountable? If they’re still losing 100+ games in 2027 will you still be optimistic about all the organizational changes Getz made and want to give him more time? He likes to take tough positions as a master debater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 23 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Serious question. When does @WestEddy start holding Getz accountable? If they’re still losing 100+ games in 2027 will you still be optimistic about all the organizational changes Getz made and want to give him more time? I answer this every single time it's asked. You must not read the comments, here. When the prospects get a full season on the pro team, then I will be looking for them to start winning. When they're still trying to filter out the bad players under contract, when they're still operating under a teeny tiny budget because they don't really have a RSN deal, yet, and while they're still in year 2 of their rebuild, I'm not going to scream about every single loss. As far as "holding Getz accountable", what does that even look like? Do I buy the White Sox and fire him? Are you expecting me to get online and scream about every single move he makes and doesn't make? Complaining irrationally isn't "holding someone accountable". So I'll ask you, when will you start to hold Getz accountable, because you haven't, as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I went and watched the interview with Lynn, instead of just consuming the short video pull they put on Twitter. The question from the host was, word for word: "Can you give us a glimpse of the difference in organizations, I'll let you just pick from any of them you played for, just give us like one difference on how places run, difference between Cardinals, White Sox, Dodgers, Yankees, like if you can point out "This is the biggest thing I would tell a player, you're gonna see this here, and they don't do that here" Lynn's response: When your with the Dodgers and Yankees at that point, everything that you would need as a player, on and off the field, they had it all covered. But their ability to teach what they wanted to teach you, be it sabermetrics, or whatever, they taught you how to be you, and that's why you see those guys showing up with the ability to play....obviously Chicago is behind everybody (and everyone heard the rest) You can watch it right here, at the 33 min mark: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 27 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I already made a post that he will still be saying “IT’S A REBUILD, YOU IDIOTS!” when the Sox still have a losing record in 2027. 🤣 And unsurprisingly, you were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, WestEddy said: And unsurprisingly, you were wrong. Okay, so you expect the Sox to have a winning record by next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 He's not wrong but f*** Lance Lynn. Dude half assed his last year here and that had nothing to do with the Sox it was a guy cheating his contract, himself, the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 27 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: He'll have the same caveat that Hahn had. JR didn't provide enough money to spend in free agency to "finish the job." Injuries/bad luck/but sound processes. Surprised we haven't recently heard the phrase "unprecedented financial flexibility/extended championship window" to describe the upcoming 2027-2030 reign of White Sox dominance... No, actually, I really don't complain about Reinsdorf's spending, and I actually believe that he spends when they're competitive. My question is why do you guys need my approval to validate your complaints about Getz? Like, when I finally give up and start complaining about Getz, you all will finally know that you were right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 42 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Maybe by 2027 or 2028... With the almost sure thing that the owners are going to lock out the players and perhaps gut the 2027 season 2028 may be a better guess. By the way saw a story today which said owners are contemplating asking for a salary cap and a salary floor for the next negotiations. MLBPA is saying a salary cap simply will not fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) 29 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Okay, so you expect the Sox to have a winning record by next season? Where do you come up with this stuff? I follow the team. When they're uninteresting, I tune out. I find the rebuild interesting. I don't know why you guys need me to buy into this good/bad binary, where I cry when it's "bad", and grumpily avoid acknowledging the "good". I'm not even really a Getz "fan". I groaned when he was promoted, but it's not like they picked a guy from the wilderness, had to teach him how to speak, and then made him GM. I've acknowledged moves I didn't like, then I move on. I don't need to post on every active string every day that I hated the Maldonado and Clevenger signings. Not doing that seems to register as supporting and liking those moves. I'd expect the Sox to be trending towards a .500 team next year. Feel free to take a victory lap after every single loss. Edited April 11 by WestEddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 13 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: He's not wrong but f*** Lance Lynn. Dude half assed his last year here and that had nothing to do with the Sox it was a guy cheating his contract, himself, the fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 29 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I answer this every single time it's asked. You must not read the comments, here. When the prospects get a full season on the pro team, then I will be looking for them to start winning. When they're still trying to filter out the bad players under contract, when they're still operating under a teeny tiny budget because they don't really have a RSN deal, yet, and while they're still in year 2 of their rebuild, I'm not going to scream about every single loss. As far as "holding Getz accountable", what does that even look like? Do I buy the White Sox and fire him? Are you expecting me to get online and scream about every single move he makes and doesn't make? Complaining irrationally isn't "holding someone accountable". So I'll ask you, when will you start to hold Getz accountable, because you haven't, as of yet. Ok, 2027 then. Got it. I’ll check back in with you in a couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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